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$99/mo is for FSD, not just lane keeping. The article doesn’t explain what happens to simple lane leeping. Surely it should be free like in any other car (like

$99/mo is for FSD, not just lane keeping. The article doesn’t explain what happens to simple lane leeping. Surely it should be free like in any other car (like my Volvo).

dawnerd 8mo ago
Lane keep is autopilot which is going away (for new cars). FSD doesn't have basic lane keep. The real question will be what happens to "legacy" cars with autopilot.
- rootusrootus 8mo ago
  > The real question will be what happens to "legacy" cars with autopilot. Tesla cannot take anything away that was on the Monroney sticker. This includes AP.
- loourr 8mo ago
  Lane keeping is a default feature for free on all tesla's and this article doesn't say it's going away.
  - dawnerd 8mo ago
    It’s autopilot and yes on current models. New models will not get it. That’ll be FSD only.
  - giobox 8mo ago
    Its being reported elsewhere that future new teslas will not have basic autopilot (the name Tesla use for the standard lane keep assist they offer) at all, the only way to get any form of lane keep assist will be to subscribe to FSD. The wording in the ars article linked here does a terrible job of explaining the change. Existing Teslas which already have basic Autopilot will still continue to have the feature. New Teslas will now only have "Traffic Aware Cruise Control" as standard without lane assist, i.e. keeps pace with traffic and can stop/start, but user still has to provide steering input.
    - jjfoooo4 8mo ago
      Isn’t lane keeping pretty standard for most new cars? It’s like an upside down freemium model - try out our basic self driving product, which is (now) the worst in the market, so you’ll convert to the premium FSD offering.
  - johnneville 8mo ago
    I don't see this mentioned in the configurator for a new model 3 on the tesla site right now. Under "Driver Assistance" it describes "Traffic-aware cruise control" only. Under "Active Safety" it includes "Lane Departure Avoidance" which is separate from the "Autosteer" feature described under the "Autopilot" section. It's possible they will choose to fold autosteer into the lane departure avoidance but there's been no announcement of that. https://www.tesla.com/ownersmanual/model3/en_il/GUID-ADA05DFF-963D-477D-9A51-FA8C8F6429F1.html https://www.tesla.com/ownersmanual/model3/en_il/GUID-ADA05DF...
  - hermanzegerman 8mo ago
    It does Under the new 2026 pricing structure, Autosteer has been removed. *New vehicles will now only ship with Traffic-Aware Cruise Control*. Buyers who want the vehicle to steer itself on highways must now pay for the software that was once standard. https://electrek.co/2026/01/23/tesla-cuts-standard-autopilot-paywalls-basic-safety-feature-behind-fsd-subscription/ https://electrek.co/2026/01/23/tesla-cuts-standard-autopilot...
- Sparyjerry 8mo ago
  lane keeping is still free its being called Traffic-Aware Cruise Control with Autosteer instead.
thefourthchime 8mo ago
Autopilot / FSD was a mess. Autopilot is very old tech and people confusing "self driving" with it, which it's not. We'll see how many pony up for FSD, but I think the play is to force people to try it.
- hibikir 8mo ago
  They handed people free trials before, which is using the carrot and not the stick. Around where I live, with HW3, the last trial made it clear that it was just not worth it at all, as there's key areas around my house where intervention was mandatory.
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$99/mo is for FSD, not just lane keeping. The article doesn’t explain what happens to simple lane leeping. Surely it should be free like in any other car (like my Volvo).

dawnerd 8mo ago

Lane keep is autopilot which is going away (for new cars). FSD doesn't have basic lane keep. The real question will be what happens to "legacy" cars with autopilot.

rootusrootus 8mo ago
> The real question will be what happens to "legacy" cars with autopilot. Tesla cannot take anything away that was on the Monroney sticker. This includes AP.
loourr 8mo ago
Lane keeping is a default feature for free on all tesla's and this article doesn't say it's going away.
- dawnerd 8mo ago
  It’s autopilot and yes on current models. New models will not get it. That’ll be FSD only.
- giobox 8mo ago
  Its being reported elsewhere that future new teslas will not have basic autopilot (the name Tesla use for the standard lane keep assist they offer) at all, the only way to get any form of lane keep assist will be to subscribe to FSD. The wording in the ars article linked here does a terrible job of explaining the change. Existing Teslas which already have basic Autopilot will still continue to have the feature. New Teslas will now only have "Traffic Aware Cruise Control" as standard without lane assist, i.e. keeps pace with traffic and can stop/start, but user still has to provide steering input.
  - jjfoooo4 8mo ago
    Isn’t lane keeping pretty standard for most new cars? It’s like an upside down freemium model - try out our basic self driving product, which is (now) the worst in the market, so you’ll convert to the premium FSD offering.
- johnneville 8mo ago
  I don't see this mentioned in the configurator for a new model 3 on the tesla site right now. Under "Driver Assistance" it describes "Traffic-aware cruise control" only. Under "Active Safety" it includes "Lane Departure Avoidance" which is separate from the "Autosteer" feature described under the "Autopilot" section. It's possible they will choose to fold autosteer into the lane departure avoidance but there's been no announcement of that. https://www.tesla.com/ownersmanual/model3/en_il/GUID-ADA05DFF-963D-477D-9A51-FA8C8F6429F1.html https://www.tesla.com/ownersmanual/model3/en_il/GUID-ADA05DF...
- hermanzegerman 8mo ago
  It does Under the new 2026 pricing structure, Autosteer has been removed. *New vehicles will now only ship with Traffic-Aware Cruise Control*. Buyers who want the vehicle to steer itself on highways must now pay for the software that was once standard. https://electrek.co/2026/01/23/tesla-cuts-standard-autopilot-paywalls-basic-safety-feature-behind-fsd-subscription/ https://electrek.co/2026/01/23/tesla-cuts-standard-autopilot...
Sparyjerry 8mo ago
lane keeping is still free its being called Traffic-Aware Cruise Control with Autosteer instead.

thefourthchime 8mo ago

Autopilot / FSD was a mess. Autopilot is very old tech and people confusing "self driving" with it, which it's not. We'll see how many pony up for FSD, but I think the play is to force people to try it.

hibikir 8mo ago
They handed people free trials before, which is using the carrot and not the stick. Around where I live, with HW3, the last trial made it clear that it was just not worth it at all, as there's key areas around my house where intervention was mandatory.

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