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> Its made me very concerned about public safety if we allow our government to have this power. ICE says it can legally enter homes without a warrant So we’re
by foogazi 8mo ago
> Its made me very concerned about public safety if we allow our government to have this power.
ICE says it can legally enter homes without a warrant
So we’re beyond concern now
- gruez 8mo ago>ICE says it can legally enter homes without a warrant Source for this claim, besides the usual exemptions that are available to all law enforcement (ie. exigent circumstances)?
- bhickey 8mo agoThey wrote a memo saying they could.
- boston_clone 8mo agonot saying you’re wrong, but we have to get in the habit of sourcing our claims! whistleblowers testified to Congress about this memo that began circulating around mid-2025. https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/26499371-dhs-ice-memo-1-21-26/ https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/26499371-dhs-ice-mem...
- esalman 8mo agoSome people also need to get in the habit of researching a claim by themselves.
- ghthor 8mo agoPretty sure doing your own research turns you into a conspiracy theorist; so I don’t think we’re supposed to do that anymore.
- krapp 8mo agoNo it doesn't. Conspiracy theorists don't actually do research. If they did, that might risk invalidating their theory.
- AnimalMuppet 8mo agoAt least some conspiracy theorists do selective research.
- antisthenes 8mo agoSelective research is an oxymoron. The word for it is cherry-picking and it is better classified as a fallacy.
- ben_w 8mo agoIMO, the problem is that you must learn what "research" actually entails before attempting it, so that you don't fall into the trap of that fallacy. Most people… eh. I don't know about the rest of the world, and my experience was in the 90s, but for me GCSE triple science was a list of facts to regurgitate in exams, and although we did also have practical sessions those weren't scored by how well we did Popperian falsification (a thing I didn't even learn about it until my entirely optional chosen-for-fun A-level in Philosophy; I don't know if A-level sciences teaches that).
- esalman 8mo agoHaha that's a good one. Maybe just do a "@grok is that true?".
- IAmBroom 8mo agoYour claim is not a source, so downvoted. The people who replied to you provided the source: upvoted them.
- baby_souffle 8mo ago> Source for this claim, besides the usual exemptions that are available to all law enforcement (ie. exigent circumstances)? Context and discussion: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGr-yWEu0hc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGr-yWEu0hc The TL/DR: administrative warrant vs an actual "signed off by a judge" warrant
- Tadpole9181 8mo agoAnd, to be clear, an administrative warrant IS NOT A WARRANT. It's essentially a memo.
- kemayo 8mo agoHere's a representative news article about it (WaPo because they were first in the search results): https://www.washingtonpost.com/immigration/2026/01/22/ice-memo-enter-homes-warrant/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/immigration/2026/01/22/ice-me... (paywall-avoiding: https://archive.is/bsdv9 https://archive.is/bsdv9) They've come up with a memo saying that non-judicial warrants can let them break in. This has historically been very much not allowed. Edit: As a quick explanation, this is more or less a separation-of-powers thing. The rule has been that for the executive to enter someone's home they need a warrant from a judge, a member of the judicial branch. They now say that an "administrative warrant" is enough, issued by an immigration judge -- but immigration judges are just executive branch employees, so this is saying that the executive can decide on its own when it wants to break into your house.
- mmooss 8mo agohttps://apnews.com/article/ice-arrests-warrants-minneapolis-trump-00d0ab0338e82341fd91b160758aeb2d https://apnews.com/article/ice-arrests-warrants-minneapolis-...
- foogazi 8mo agoSource for the exigent circumstances exemption ?
- gruez 8mo agohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exigent_circumstance https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exigent_circumstance
- xtiansimon 8mo agoJust watched this yesterday, YouTube LegalEagles: “Unbelievable ICE Memo Just Leaked” https://youtu.be/MGr-yWEu0hc https://youtu.be/MGr-yWEu0hc