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"Mozilla doesn't like Pepper" is a bit of an unfair characterization. A better description would be "only Google likes Pepper", because as far as I am aware Mic

by mccr8 14y ago

"Mozilla doesn't like Pepper" is a bit of an unfair characterization. A better description would be "only Google likes Pepper", because as far as I am aware Microsoft, Apple and Opera have not expressed any interest in implementing Pepper either. You just see more about Mozilla's thoughts on Pepper because it is a more open organization.

majke 14y ago
True, and that's why I mentioned only Mozilla - I have no clue what others are saying. Any references to position of Opera, Microsoft and Apple?
- pcwalton 14y ago
  Here's a comment from Maciej (Apple): http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2057611 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2057611
- othermaciej 14y ago
  Apple very rarely takes positions on technologies that we don't currently support. Here is a past comment conveying a personal opinion from a WebKit engineer though: https://mail.mozilla.org/pipermail/plugin-futures/2010-April/000089.html https://mail.mozilla.org/pipermail/plugin-futures/2010-April...
- vetinari 14y ago
  Microsoft never used NSAPI (API that Mozilla, Apple and Opera use) either. They always used ActiveX. After all, the 'N' in 'NSAPI' means 'Netscape'.
  - ephemient 14y ago
    Not true. Internet Explorer used to work with both NSAPI and ActiveX plugins, until they pulled support for the former. """Netscape-style plug-ins are supported in Internet Explorer 5.5 Service Pack 1 (SP1) and earlier, but are not supported in Internet Explorer 5.5 Service Pack 2 (SP2) and Internet Explorer 6.""" -- http://support.microsoft.com/kb/306790 http://support.microsoft.com/kb/306790
    - vetinari 14y ago
      Thanks, I stand corrected. I just remember, that there were two versions of Flash - ActiveX for IE and NPAPI for all the others.
  - planckscnst 14y ago
    Up until IE6, they did; after that, there was an ActiveX control that could load NPAPI plugins.
- cmccabe 14y ago
  Apple wants people to write iOS applications. Microsoft wants people to write Windows 8 applications. It's possible that Mozilla will come around, if Chrome gives them a big enough kick in the pants. Then again, it's equally possible that PNaCL / PPAPI will remain simply an app distribution mechanism for ChromeOS.

by mccr8 14y ago

majke 14y ago

True, and that's why I mentioned only Mozilla - I have no clue what others are saying. Any references to position of Opera, Microsoft and Apple?

pcwalton 14y ago
Here's a comment from Maciej (Apple): http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2057611 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2057611
othermaciej 14y ago
Apple very rarely takes positions on technologies that we don't currently support. Here is a past comment conveying a personal opinion from a WebKit engineer though: https://mail.mozilla.org/pipermail/plugin-futures/2010-April/000089.html https://mail.mozilla.org/pipermail/plugin-futures/2010-April...
vetinari 14y ago
Microsoft never used NSAPI (API that Mozilla, Apple and Opera use) either. They always used ActiveX. After all, the 'N' in 'NSAPI' means 'Netscape'.
- ephemient 14y ago
  Not true. Internet Explorer used to work with both NSAPI and ActiveX plugins, until they pulled support for the former. """Netscape-style plug-ins are supported in Internet Explorer 5.5 Service Pack 1 (SP1) and earlier, but are not supported in Internet Explorer 5.5 Service Pack 2 (SP2) and Internet Explorer 6.""" -- http://support.microsoft.com/kb/306790 http://support.microsoft.com/kb/306790
  - vetinari 14y ago
    Thanks, I stand corrected. I just remember, that there were two versions of Flash - ActiveX for IE and NPAPI for all the others.
- planckscnst 14y ago
  Up until IE6, they did; after that, there was an ActiveX control that could load NPAPI plugins.
cmccabe 14y ago
Apple wants people to write iOS applications. Microsoft wants people to write Windows 8 applications. It's possible that Mozilla will come around, if Chrome gives them a big enough kick in the pants. Then again, it's equally possible that PNaCL / PPAPI will remain simply an app distribution mechanism for ChromeOS.