> yet somehow in contemporary times that's deemed conservative, if not very conservative. .. no, I think that sounds pretty capital-L Liberal to me. I think yo

> yet somehow in contemporary times that's deemed conservative, if not very conservative. .. no, I think that sounds pretty capital-L Liberal to me. I think you may have confused the views of a few incredibly online leftists for "contemporary times". Or we get into specific issues and find out what the extreme conservativism actually is.