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Liberal democracy is rooted in Christian ethics. It does not make sense to a Muslim culture or the Chinese culture.
by prometheus76 8mo ago
Liberal democracy is rooted in Christian ethics. It does not make sense to a Muslim culture or the Chinese culture.
- wat10000 8mo agoI imagine the people of Malaysia and Taiwan would be surprised to learn this.
- red-iron-pine 8mo agoOr Indonesia. Or Turkey, which has a long history of Democracy stemming from Attaturk
- thomassmith65 8mo agoDemocracy is pre-Christian. Liberalism is rooted in Christian sectarianism.
- red-iron-pine 8mo agoAncient Greece sure as hell wasn't Christian
- 1718627440 8mo agoBut Christian swallowed Greece Philosophy, until to the point where it is a core part of Christianity. There are much less a break between different high-cultures as people make it be after the fact, but more of a continuous morphing into each other.
- thomassmith65 8mo agoAncient Greeks and Romans spent more time in the Middle East than they did in Northern Europe. If Christians borrowed from anyone, it was Middle Easterners... ie: themselves. Granted, Islam is not the same as Middle Eastern, but European and the Middle Eastern cultures have interwoven for millennia. The Middle East is not monolithic, either. They have had their own Christian communities ever since the religion was invented. Neither is Europe free of Muslim thought. Spain is an obvious example, but there was also trade, which is how algebra came to Europe.
- 1718627440 8mo agoI don't get you claim. Greek philosophy existed earlier than Christianity, and borrowed e.g. from Egypt, and not really from Israel, which is the cultural branch Christianity evolved from.
- thomassmith65 8mo agoYes, what I meant to convey is that the lands around the Mediterranean constituted a coherent region more than the Northern Mediterranean combined with Northern Europe. Greeks and Romans traveled throughout the area. To a Roman, a northern Barbarian was more exotic than the peoples South of the Mediterranean. We are more similar to Middle Easterners than it might seem, though, granted, Islam today is a huge differentiator.
- 1718627440 8mo agoSorry, did you wanted to point out a contradiction or just add to the point? What I mainly disagree with is: > ie: themselves. Those were completely different incompatible cultures. "middle eastern" simply isn't a term, that makes sense for that time as a cultural distinction. > Islam today is a huge differentiator. On yet another note, some claim Islam to be somewhat of a Christian sect.
- thomassmith65 8mo agoOh, by 'themselves' I wanted to point out that the first Christians were, obviously, Middle Easterners. There have been Christian communities throughout the region ever since. Yes, I gather Islam incorporated both Judaism and Christianity.
- thrance 8mo agoChristian ethics? What is that exactly? IIRC, "Christianity" used to be very much tied to monarchy in Europe, as well as feudalism. Then it was used to justify slavery. Then apartheid. And now it's sometimes used to justify stripping minorities of their rights. There is no Christian ethics, only people justifying there political views by invoking Jesus.
- burnerzzzzz 8mo agoNo evidence supports this. “Rule by the people” is in no why an idea unique to Christians. This is simply false info