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Apple also makes it a biznatch to make a developer account separate from your personal account. In Apple's ideal world, multiple accounts should in no circumsta
by postalcoder 9mo ago
Apple also makes it a biznatch to make a developer account separate from your personal account. In Apple's ideal world, multiple accounts should in no circumstance ever exist. I, in an ideal world, would agree with this. But we live in this world, where Apple bans accounts for redeeming legitimate gift cards.
- malshe 9mo agoI am facing this issue right now. I need to create a separate developer account because I am risk averse. Do I need a new phone number for this? Online some people say yes, others say no. I tried creating the account several times but it just doesn't work. At this point I am planning to just get a prepaid SIM card from US Mobile for the phone number.
- jakejohnson 9mo agoI set up a couple developer accounts recently for my clients. Just use a new Google Voice number for 2FA. I had to live chat with Apple support to get past initial verification both times and after that setup went fine.
- malshe 8mo agoThanks, that's great to know! I will take this route.
- xp84 8mo agoApple will allow you to have multiple Apple IDs tied to the same phone number -- my kids' ones have my number on them. So for some purposes it seems fine to just reuse the phone number for a second account -- like for your kids, or for a "sandbox" account to use testing your app so that you don't have to use your real iCloud account. However, for your purpose of avoiding Apple's capricious BS, I probably wouldn't go that route since if their braindead fraud systems or braindead employees decide you're a threat actor they could definitely default to "Ban account. Find all their evil backup accounts that have the same phone numbers or contact emails and ban them too."
- malshe 8mo agoThanks for highlighting this. I did not think about Apple/employee potentially linking phone numbers of different accounts and banning all of them.
- VerifiedReports 9mo agoAnd yet Apple CREATED the multiple-accounts problem for millions of people by implementing their idiotic "Apple ID must be an E-mail address" policy. So of course people thought that when they changed jobs, cable companies, or whatever... they needed to create a new Apple ID with their new E-mail address. This was reinforced when Apple further stupidified their policy by requiring your ID to be a WORKING E-mail address (originally it didn't actually have to work). After the outcry over people's App Store and other purchases being scattered across multiple IDs, Apple finally publicly and huffily declared that they weren't going to fix the problem they created by letting people consolidate accounts. The moral: Don't force people to use E-mail addresses as user IDs. It's stupid on several levels.
- Someone 9mo ago> Apple finally publicly and huffily declared that they weren't going to fix the problem they created by letting people consolidate accounts. They somewhat changed that. It now is possible to move purchases between accounts. See https://support.apple.com/en-us/117294 https://support.apple.com/en-us/117294. Looks quite cumbersome to do, and will not apply to everybody (“If an Apple Account is only used for making purchases, those purchases can be migrated to a primary Apple Account to consolidate them.”, “This feature isn’t available to users in India.”)
- VerifiedReports 9mo agoInteresting. But WTF is a "primary" Apple account? My original Apple ID isn't an E-mail address, so they forced me (and others in that situation) to create another one for iCloud because that one inexplicably has to be an E-mail address. I use both for quite a few things. Which one is "primary?"
- Someone 8mo agoThat text is badly written. They define that after mentioning it: “At the time of migration, the Apple Account signed in for use with iCloud and most features on your iPhone or iPad will be referred to as the primary Apple Account. At the time of migration, the Apple Account signed in just for use with Media & Purchases will be referred to as the secondary Apple Account.” ⇒ apparently you can be signed into multiple accounts at the same time ¿but I guess with only one account per feature? But as I said, that page is badly written. So, maybe I’m understanding it wrong.
- charcircuit 9mo ago>where Apple bans accounts for redeeming legitimate gift cards. Is there any evidence of this happening with an actual legitimate gift card and bot one which was stolen or originally purchased via credit card fund.
- avhon1 9mo agohttps://hey.paris/posts/appleid/ https://hey.paris/posts/appleid/ > The card was purchased from a major brick-and-mortar retailer (Australians, think Woolworths scale; Americans, think Walmart scale)
- charcircuit 9mo ago>was already redeemed in some way This is the important quote showing that the gift card was not legitimate.
- twelvedogs 8mo agodo you think that makes it ok? they walked into a store, tried to pay money to apple and as a result they had their stuff locked forever apple recommended they only buy gift cards from apple, but they still sell them in stores... obviously money is more important to them than the consumers but pretending apple have zero responsibility is silly
- charcircuit 8mo ago>they had their stuff locked forever It was locked for less than a week. >but they still sell them in stores Unfortunately there are sketchy resellers that exist too.
- direwolf20 8mo agoIt was locked for a week because of the social media fuss that not everyone can raise. Otherwise it'd be forever.
- realusername 8mo agoIf you create your developer account in another country (or with a card from another country, who knows), the whole thing just crashes and the sign-in on the phone loops. When encountering this, I updated the device which bricked the appstore, the device has to be fully reset if that happens.
- sk7 8mo agoFor Apple Business Manager, Apple forces you to create a separate new account.
- angulardragon03 8mo agoYes - all ABM accounts are Managed Apple Accounts, not Personal ones. You can’t mix and match (they each have different features).
- direwolf20 8mo agoThe two are related. Apple doesn't want you having multiple accounts, because it wants to ban you for redeeming legitimate gift cards, not just one of your personas.