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Those are also discouraged by PG asking people not to do them, and punishing people who do.
by xenophanes 18y ago
Those are also discouraged by PG asking people not to do them, and punishing people who do.
- jmackinn 18y agoCould you please elaborate on that.
- xenophanes 18y agoHe has several times asked people to stop posting in deeply nested threads. e.g. a recent thread about parenting. And he has sometimes disabled accounts for participating in deeply nested threads he didn't like.
- jmackinn 18y agoI don't think pg has ever disabled accounts for having a long discussion. I've also have never read the idea of long conversations being discouraged by anyone here.
- xenophanes 18y agohttp://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=416933 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=416933
- tptacek 18y agoGod knows there are things about the pg-cult that irritate me, but the point of this site is that it has an opinion on what its culture should be. I'm the other half of the thread you're pointing to, and when the site's "curator" said "please stop", it didn't take much thought to figure out the right response. What's weird is, why are you still thinking about this? It was weeks ago. Life is very short.
- xenophanes 18y agoYou are mixing up whether he did X, or not, with whether you agree with X or not. I said the former; you argued about the later. (Note also that I did stop posting in that thread, too, when he asked.) I am not the only one who remembers some of these things. pg does too; he linked back to a time he punished me for having fun. Personally, I find it interesting, and I enjoyed this thread. I have an ongoing debate with a friend about how email lists should be moderated, and this stuff is relevant. And I got to see interesting attitudes like SwellJoe's. I didn't predict a reply like that.
- unalone 18y agoThat's not the same sort of deep conversation. PG asks a lot about not getting into bickerfests, and that's certainly fair. On the other hand, gravitycop and I got into a discussion about artificial intelligence a day or two ago, which went on for quite a while. Since it's not a big center-of-discussions, all our posts remained at one or two points each. In the end I don't think it matters much either way - the really fun conversations you do for the sake of talking, not for the karma. But this system still subtly discourages those sorts of exchanges, which is a pity.
- xenophanes 18y agoI don't care about the karma, I care about being asked to stop having perfectly interesting discussions.
- pg 18y agoYou mean like this one? http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=140170 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=140170
- xenophanes 18y agoNo, not that one :) So, anyway, why did you ban xlnt and qqq, but not this account?
- pg 18y agoOptimism.
- xenophanes 18y agoFunny, but still a very opaque policy. As far as I could tell, qqq was for criticizing your comments related to Israel, and xlnt was either for what qqq did or for having a new account. Is that right?
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