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2022-11-28 - “About 2.6 million Uyghur and Kazakh people have been subjected to coercion, “re-education programs” and internment in the Xinjiang region of north

by lurk2 9mo ago

2022-11-28 - “About 2.6 million Uyghur and Kazakh people have been subjected to coercion, “re-education programs” and internment in the Xinjiang region of north-west China, which is the source of 40-45% of the world’s solar-grade polysilicon. A report by the United Nations office of the high commissioner for human rights three months ago found Xinjiang was home to “serious human rights violations”, and the US has listed polysilicon from China as a material likely to have been produced by child or forced labour.” https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/nov/29/evidence-grows-of-forced-labour-and-slavery-in-production-of-solar-panels-wind-turbines https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/nov/29/evidence... 2024-08-27 - Indian solar panels face US scrutiny for possible links to China forced labor https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/indian-solar-panels-face-us-scrutiny-possible-links-china-forced-labor-2024-08-27/ https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/indian-solar-panels-... 2025-04-30 - Human Rights in the Life Cycle of Renewable Energy and Critical Minerals https://www.ohchr.org/sites/default/files/documents/issues/climatechange/cfis/life-cycle-minerals/subm-hr-life-cycle-aca-crock-et-al.pdf https://www.ohchr.org/sites/default/files/documents/issues/c...

toomuchtodo 9mo ago
The US has forced [1] and child [2] labor as well. It's certainly not welcome, but context is important when casting the first stone. [1] Forced prison labor in the “Land of the Free” - https://www.epi.org/publication/rooted-racism-prison-labor/ https://www.epi.org/publication/rooted-racism-prison-labor/ - January 16th, 2025 [2] [US] Child labor law violations are at their highest in decades. - https://www.americamagazine.org/politics-society/2024/05/01/child-labor-law-violations-247831/ https://www.americamagazine.org/politics-society/2024/05/01/... - May 1st, 2024 (staunchly anti child and forced labor to be clear)
Analemma_ 9mo ago
I mean I don't exactly have great news for you about the human rights situations in major oil-producing countries either. Not to do whataboutism, but if your energy source is going to implicate you in human rights abuses either way, you might as well take the clean renewable one.
coryrc 9mo ago
It's convenient the Islamic countries don't seem to mind their coreligonists being persecuted here, especially as these people haven't launched military invasions of neighboring regions.
- epolanski 9mo ago
  Islamic countries, especially the Arab ones barely said anything in face of the genocide in Gaza. Hell, more journalists have died reporting in Gaza than in WW2, Vietnam, Iraq and Afganistan combined and nobody gives two damns.
  - midlander 9mo ago
    Many Hamas members had day-jobs as “journalists”, meaning they worked on producing content for Hamas. Many of them took part in the invasion of Israel on Oct 7th taking selfies with and clips of the gruesome massacres as they were unfolding.

by lurk2 9mo ago

toomuchtodo 9mo ago

The US has forced [1] and child [2] labor as well. It's certainly not welcome, but context is important when casting the first stone. [1] Forced prison labor in the “Land of the Free” - https://www.epi.org/publication/rooted-racism-prison-labor/ https://www.epi.org/publication/rooted-racism-prison-labor/ - January 16th, 2025 [2] [US] Child labor law violations are at their highest in decades. - https://www.americamagazine.org/politics-society/2024/05/01/child-labor-law-violations-247831/ https://www.americamagazine.org/politics-society/2024/05/01/... - May 1st, 2024 (staunchly anti child and forced labor to be clear)

Analemma_ 9mo ago

I mean I don't exactly have great news for you about the human rights situations in major oil-producing countries either. Not to do whataboutism, but if your energy source is going to implicate you in human rights abuses either way, you might as well take the clean renewable one.

coryrc 9mo ago

It's convenient the Islamic countries don't seem to mind their coreligonists being persecuted here, especially as these people haven't launched military invasions of neighboring regions.

epolanski 9mo ago
Islamic countries, especially the Arab ones barely said anything in face of the genocide in Gaza. Hell, more journalists have died reporting in Gaza than in WW2, Vietnam, Iraq and Afganistan combined and nobody gives two damns.
- midlander 9mo ago
  Many Hamas members had day-jobs as “journalists”, meaning they worked on producing content for Hamas. Many of them took part in the invasion of Israel on Oct 7th taking selfies with and clips of the gruesome massacres as they were unfolding.