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Wouldn't it make more sense to strike OpenAI, or Midjourney, or whatever else then? Aside from that, I don't think this "protest" will result in anything more

by ronsor 9mo ago

Wouldn't it make more sense to strike OpenAI, or Midjourney, or whatever else then? Aside from that, I don't think this "protest" will result in anything more than maybe some increased security (and maybe more arrests if he inspires others to do similar).

yifanl 9mo ago
I'm sure he'll be happy to eat whatever sama frames in the MOMA too, but you can only protest what's in your reach.
__loam 9mo ago
Eating all AI "art" that tries to displace real artists in these spaces is the only moral decision.
- ronsor 9mo ago
  I think I'd like to opt out of mob "justice" personally.
  - __loam 9mo ago
    It's inevitable when the institutions are so thoroughly bought by the people building this technology.
striking 9mo ago
Got you to talk about it, though, didn't it? > CW: Do you consider what you did protest, performance art, both, or something else? > GG: Both. It’s a protest against the school’s AI policy specifically and it’s performance art because I needed something that would elicit a reaction. So this could reach more people. Not everything has to be a global battle for all the marbles. Sometimes you're just pissed off that your school has a stupid policy and the administration won't listen to you. No better way to change that than make the news (aside from maybe going after donors).
- ronsor 9mo ago
  > Got you to talk about it, though, didn't it? Perhaps it did, although not in favor of what he's seeking.
  - striking 9mo ago
    That's all the better for a cause that needs attention. If everyone's to one side then the conversation quickly dies out, while if something is contentious there will be two or more parties keeping it alive. A protest doesn't need to be perfect and it shouldn't convince everyone who sees it in one shot. A protest that causes outrage is much more effective at reaching whoever it needs to reach.
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alwa 9mo ago
I mean -- we're talking about it, aren't we? Maybe I'm giving more credit than is due, but my mind went to an inverted kind of echo of Cloaca... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloaca_(art_installation) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloaca_(art_installation)

by ronsor 9mo ago

yifanl 9mo ago

I'm sure he'll be happy to eat whatever sama frames in the MOMA too, but you can only protest what's in your reach.

__loam 9mo ago

Eating all AI "art" that tries to displace real artists in these spaces is the only moral decision.

ronsor 9mo ago
I think I'd like to opt out of mob "justice" personally.
- __loam 9mo ago
  It's inevitable when the institutions are so thoroughly bought by the people building this technology.

striking 9mo ago

Got you to talk about it, though, didn't it? > CW: Do you consider what you did protest, performance art, both, or something else? > GG: Both. It’s a protest against the school’s AI policy specifically and it’s performance art because I needed something that would elicit a reaction. So this could reach more people. Not everything has to be a global battle for all the marbles. Sometimes you're just pissed off that your school has a stupid policy and the administration won't listen to you. No better way to change that than make the news (aside from maybe going after donors).

ronsor 9mo ago
> Got you to talk about it, though, didn't it? Perhaps it did, although not in favor of what he's seeking.
- striking 9mo ago
  That's all the better for a cause that needs attention. If everyone's to one side then the conversation quickly dies out, while if something is contentious there will be two or more parties keeping it alive. A protest doesn't need to be perfect and it shouldn't convince everyone who sees it in one shot. A protest that causes outrage is much more effective at reaching whoever it needs to reach.
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alwa 9mo ago

I mean -- we're talking about it, aren't we? Maybe I'm giving more credit than is due, but my mind went to an inverted kind of echo of Cloaca... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloaca_(art_installation) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloaca_(art_installation)