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> Eating meat is quite clearly immoral. Unless it will be detrimental to your health, eat as little as possible. Carnivorous animals, are they immoral?
by ap99 9mo ago
> Eating meat is quite clearly immoral. Unless it will be detrimental to your health, eat as little as possible.
Carnivorous animals, are they immoral?
- spicyusername 9mo agoOne might argue the difference is that they are ignorant of the suffering caused by their behavior, and that the knowing and doing anyways is the moral problem, not just the doing. Alternately, one might argue the difference is that they have no alternative to inflicting suffering, and that having the option to reduce suffering and choosing to inflict it anyways is the moral problem, not just inflicting it.
- jl6 9mo agoThat does track with those who are most stridently Good and Moral and Kind and Right having some glaring blind spots when it comes to understanding the consequences of their actions.
- K0balt 9mo agoI don’t think that mammals are, in general, ignorant of the character of harm, violence, and death. Animals even kill to end suffering. Life is short, brutal, and violent. We do what we can to make it less so.
- cannonpr 9mo agoMorality is a human construct and applies to humans, arguments that try to argue morality on the basis of applying naturalistic arguments to humans do exist, but I don’t think they have much credence in modern moral frameworks ?
- roger_ 9mo agoAppeal to nature.
- cies 9mo agoCan any animal be immoral to our standards? Rape culture among ducks? Or crows that attack a member of the flock that misbehaved to a minor of the flock? (this is one of the animals that seem to have their own morals). Anyway: humans should not project our sense of moral to animals. And humans are no carnivores. Most likely we're omnivores (like our close animal relatives the primates: and they prefer fruit over meat any day, just like human babies).
- torginus 9mo agoI'm sure the concept of self-restraint exists in the animal kingdom among apex predators. Don't hunt too much or otherwise you will destroy your habitat. This applies to humans too, and not just in the context of eating meat.
- direwolf20 9mo agoIt does not. One predator eats all the prey, because if he doesn't, the other predators will. The next year they all starve. This is a documented effect. No reference to geopolitics intended.
- baal80spam 9mo agoUnless they are bugs, then it's not!
- imjonse 9mo ago1) Animals do not (pretend to) have morals, unlike humans 2) Carnivores do not have a choice of food, humans have great alternatives, being omnivores not carnivores.
- IAmBroom 9mo agoCitation required. For both, really. Wild wolves are actually omnivores (choice of food), but generally choose to act like obligate carnivores.
- throw4432345 9mo agoThat’s why we are humans, and they are animals.