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I don't like the way it is handled. Imagine Excel actively prompting you with a pop up every time you open a sheet: "Do you trust the authors of this file? If n

by CjHuber 9mo ago

I don't like the way it is handled. Imagine Excel actively prompting you with a pop up every time you open a sheet: "Do you trust the authors of this file? If not you will loose out on cool features and the sheet runs in restricted mode" No it doesn't because restricted mode without Macros is the default and not framed like something bad or loosing out on all of those nice features,

ses1984 9mo ago
The point of an IDE is that it does stuff a simple text editor does not.
- alistairSH 9mo ago
  Sure, but as noted elsewhere, the IDEs generally don't "do stuff" by default just on opening a file folder. VSCode, by default, will run some programs as soon as you open a folder.
  - 12_throw_away 9mo ago
    > the IDEs generally don't "do stuff" by default just on opening a file folder In any JetBrains IDE: Settings > Tools > Startup Tasks.
  - ses1984 8mo ago
    Even something as simple as syntax highlighting is a vector.
theamazing0 9mo ago
I think Excel does do something similar though with Protected View. https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/office/what-is-protected-view-d6f09ac7-e6b9-4495-8e43-2bbcdbcb6653 https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/office/what-is-protected...
- CjHuber 9mo ago
  Exactly that's why I was making the comparison, It's not a in your face PopUp, where users get used to just pressing the blue, highlighted and glowing "I trust the authors" button without even being told what features they'd miss out on. The Protected view in Office instead tells you "Be careful" and to only activate editing when you need to.
  - WorldMaker 9mo ago
    It's also worth noting that this behavior evolved very slowly. It took Excel decades to learn how to best handle the defaults. Excel started with modals similar to VS Code's "Do you want to allow macros? This may be dangerous", found too many users self-trained on "Allow" as the only button that needed to be pressed and eventually built the current solution. If VS Code is still on the same learning curve, hopefully it speeds up a bit.
WorldMaker 9mo ago
Right, I think one of the biggest problems is the name "Restricted Mode" itself. It sounds like a punishment, when it is a safer sandbox. Restricted Mode is great and incredibly useful. But it is unsurprising how people don't like to be in Restricted Mode when it sounds like a doghouse out back, not a lobby or atrium on the way to the rest of the building.

by CjHuber 9mo ago

ses1984 9mo ago

The point of an IDE is that it does stuff a simple text editor does not.

alistairSH 9mo ago
Sure, but as noted elsewhere, the IDEs generally don't "do stuff" by default just on opening a file folder. VSCode, by default, will run some programs as soon as you open a folder.
- 12_throw_away 9mo ago
  > the IDEs generally don't "do stuff" by default just on opening a file folder In any JetBrains IDE: Settings > Tools > Startup Tasks.
- ses1984 8mo ago
  Even something as simple as syntax highlighting is a vector.

theamazing0 9mo ago

I think Excel does do something similar though with Protected View. https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/office/what-is-protected-view-d6f09ac7-e6b9-4495-8e43-2bbcdbcb6653 https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/office/what-is-protected...

CjHuber 9mo ago
Exactly that's why I was making the comparison, It's not a in your face PopUp, where users get used to just pressing the blue, highlighted and glowing "I trust the authors" button without even being told what features they'd miss out on. The Protected view in Office instead tells you "Be careful" and to only activate editing when you need to.
- WorldMaker 9mo ago
  It's also worth noting that this behavior evolved very slowly. It took Excel decades to learn how to best handle the defaults. Excel started with modals similar to VS Code's "Do you want to allow macros? This may be dangerous", found too many users self-trained on "Allow" as the only button that needed to be pressed and eventually built the current solution. If VS Code is still on the same learning curve, hopefully it speeds up a bit.

WorldMaker 9mo ago

Right, I think one of the biggest problems is the name "Restricted Mode" itself. It sounds like a punishment, when it is a safer sandbox. Restricted Mode is great and incredibly useful. But it is unsurprising how people don't like to be in Restricted Mode when it sounds like a doghouse out back, not a lobby or atrium on the way to the rest of the building.