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From https://curl.se/docs/code-of-conduct.html https://curl.se/docs/code-of-conduct.html: "As contributors and maintainers of this project, we pledge to respec

by wojciii 9mo ago

From https://curl.se/docs/code-of-conduct.html https://curl.se/docs/code-of-conduct.html: "As contributors and maintainers of this project, we pledge to respect all people who contribute through reporting issues, posting feature requests, updating documentation, submitting pull requests or patches, and other activities" Why have a code of conduct while being hostile to contributors? I think they should handle this differently.

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defraudbah 9mo ago
all curl team came here to downvote you, don't be so cruel :D
- wojciii 9mo ago
  Heh. I understand they people hate to to waste time. They should just be polite about it. Or you know .. update or delete the CoC.
  - ciupicri 9mo ago
    Well, I guess this could be considered an update: > We will ban you and ridicule you in public if you waste our time on crap reports.
javcasas 9mo ago
I don't think that telling a LLM to create a fake bug report is "contributing".
- deleted 9mo ago
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- 8organicbits 9mo ago
  There's no mention of LLMs in the link. Humans are perfectly able to generate "crap reports" on their own. I think the parent is correct in calling out the inconsistency of promoting personal attacks when that is explicitly forbidden in the CoC.
ath3nd 9mo ago
> Why have a code of conduct while being hostile to contributors? AI issued PRs or issues being called "contributions" is like me dumping my garbage in front of your house and calling it a "donation".
Citizen_Lame 9mo ago
Perhaps because they are not really contributors, so it doesn't apply.
- wojciii 9mo ago
  Then they should exclude specific groups from their CoC. "You can't be a contributor if you're an Indian using AI". I don't think this is the way ..
  - nemomarx 9mo ago
    The simpler part is to say that AI generated text / code is not a contribution and will be banned if found, probably. You won't get a hundred percent hit rate on identifying it, but it at least filters really low effort obvious stuff?
Sharlin 9mo ago
"Contribute" comes from the Latin con- "with, together" and tribuere "bestow". We need a new word for these slop submissions. "Detribute" might work well, for something that takes away from the common good, rather than adding to it.
brovonov 9mo ago
They are not contributors, they are spammers. There is a difference. Do you reply to spammers with friendly greetings?
- wojciii 9mo ago
  I should really. They are also people. Probably bored at "work" in some slum in Nigeria. I'll try to strike a conversation with a spammer next time I can't sleep. Thanks for a great suggestion.
  - brovonov 9mo ago
    But you won't. Let's be real here. Yeah, lets gently remind ai spammers that they are truly helping but submitting bogus Issues, PRs, bug bounties, or whatever. Just like scammers from fake call centers, they are only in it for the money and hoping one hit sticks.
jeroenhd 9mo ago
With the extra work that LLM slop has been causing to core maintainers, I think they're quite friendly. Hopefully the volume of the bullshit they receive goes down once they stop paying bug bounties. The people who got upset that their hacker alias got called out for submitting bullshit LLM slop got what they deserve.

by wojciii 9mo ago

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defraudbah 9mo ago

all curl team came here to downvote you, don't be so cruel :D

wojciii 9mo ago
Heh. I understand they people hate to to waste time. They should just be polite about it. Or you know .. update or delete the CoC.
- ciupicri 9mo ago
  Well, I guess this could be considered an update: > We will ban you and ridicule you in public if you waste our time on crap reports.

javcasas 9mo ago

I don't think that telling a LLM to create a fake bug report is "contributing".

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8organicbits 9mo ago
There's no mention of LLMs in the link. Humans are perfectly able to generate "crap reports" on their own. I think the parent is correct in calling out the inconsistency of promoting personal attacks when that is explicitly forbidden in the CoC.

ath3nd 9mo ago

> Why have a code of conduct while being hostile to contributors? AI issued PRs or issues being called "contributions" is like me dumping my garbage in front of your house and calling it a "donation".

Citizen_Lame 9mo ago

Perhaps because they are not really contributors, so it doesn't apply.

wojciii 9mo ago
Then they should exclude specific groups from their CoC. "You can't be a contributor if you're an Indian using AI". I don't think this is the way ..
- nemomarx 9mo ago
  The simpler part is to say that AI generated text / code is not a contribution and will be banned if found, probably. You won't get a hundred percent hit rate on identifying it, but it at least filters really low effort obvious stuff?

Sharlin 9mo ago

"Contribute" comes from the Latin con- "with, together" and tribuere "bestow". We need a new word for these slop submissions. "Detribute" might work well, for something that takes away from the common good, rather than adding to it.

brovonov 9mo ago

They are not contributors, they are spammers. There is a difference. Do you reply to spammers with friendly greetings?

wojciii 9mo ago
I should really. They are also people. Probably bored at "work" in some slum in Nigeria. I'll try to strike a conversation with a spammer next time I can't sleep. Thanks for a great suggestion.
- brovonov 9mo ago
  But you won't. Let's be real here. Yeah, lets gently remind ai spammers that they are truly helping but submitting bogus Issues, PRs, bug bounties, or whatever. Just like scammers from fake call centers, they are only in it for the money and hoping one hit sticks.

jeroenhd 9mo ago

With the extra work that LLM slop has been causing to core maintainers, I think they're quite friendly. Hopefully the volume of the bullshit they receive goes down once they stop paying bug bounties. The people who got upset that their hacker alias got called out for submitting bullshit LLM slop got what they deserve.