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Hello American. I'm from one of those other pesky countries that make up most of the human population of earth, and which usually have other keyboard layouts. I
by glennsl 14y ago
Hello American. I'm from one of those other pesky countries that make up most of the human population of earth, and which usually have other keyboard layouts. I have to type shift+, to get the semicolon.
- bla2 14y agoI switch from my native layout to the US layout for coding.
- jlmendezbonini 14y agoWhich keyboard layout is that?
- dbaupp 14y agoSwedish is one such keyboard.
- DanBC 14y agoCzech; German; Polish; French; Spanish; Italian; Portuguese; etc etc etc.
- adamnemecek 14y agoThat being said, there are also programmer's layouts specific to single languages which among others have a semi-colon on the home row.
- naitbit 14y agoI've never seen QWERTZ keyboard in Poland and I live there. Typewriters indeed were using this layout, but not many people use them to program. "practically all computers (except custom-made, e.g., in public sector and some Apple computers) use standard US layout (commonly called Polish programmers layout, in Polish: polski programisty) with Polish letters accessed through AltGr (AltGr-Z giving “Ż” and AltGr-X giving “Ź”)." http://keyboard-layout.info/#Polish http://keyboard-layout.info/#Polish
- emillon 14y agoThere's no need to use shift to get a semicolon on a french keyboard.
- glennsl 14y agoNorwegian. Many european countries use the same placement for semicolon. All the Scandinavian and Baltic countries, Germany and Netherlands to name a few. Russia uses shift+4. Can't imagine how annoying that is.
- pandaman 14y agoRussian keyboard layout does not have any Roman letters so apart from obscure even in their time, Soviet-devloped languages like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rapira http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rapira, reaching for shift+4 for ';' is going to be the least of your concerns if you try to write code using Russian layout.
- skrebbel 14y agoNitpick: Almost. There is a Dutch keyboard layout, but nobody uses it. Nobody, as in, there's more people in the Netherlands that use Dvorak than people that use the Dutch keyboard layout. The Dutch commonly use the US keyboard layout, which makes sense because Dutch and English have the same alphabet.
- akkartik 14y agoI am going to pay more attention to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keyboard_layout http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keyboard_layout after this thread!
- bane 14y agohere's a bunch (scroll down) http://keyboard-layout.info/ http://keyboard-layout.info/
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- ianstallings 14y agoThat sounds really tough. An extra key press. I bet that wastes like, 10 seconds a day.
- lucian1900 14y agoA potential workaround is to always use an American keyboard. It's what I do.
- symmetricsaurus 14y agoIndeed. On a Swedish keyboard the semicolon is not the biggest problem though. {}[] are since you need to press right-alt+number keys to get them. Really awful. It takes a very short time using an American keyboard for coding to realize its benefits. Still, even on an American keyboard () are not terribly well placed. I've been thinking about adopting the NEO2 layout(with some modification so that I get all of åäö) but haven't gotten around to it yet. Has anyone tried that for programming?
- tomlu 14y agoHej! I have all my symbol characters easily accessible from the normal A-Z keys using a third shift state. It's awesome, and works with any keyboard layout (QWERTY, or even Swedish QWERTY are all fine, as is Dvorak, Colemak etc). Typing a previously uncomfortable sequence like "for (int i = 0; i < count; ++i)" is even pleasant now. It takes about two weeks to get used to. If you try it, make sure the third shift state can be accessed from either hand (i.e. you have to have left and right keys, just like with shift or control). I wasn't aware of NEO2 so I developed my own symbol layout using a genetic algorithm running over my code corpus, then adjusting to taste.
- bitcracker 14y agoAnother solution is xmodmap in Unix or some similar tool in Windows to change the keyboard layout. With that solution you don't have to miss the default national keyboard layout.
- MartinCron 14y agoI feel your pain, I have to jump through all kinds of høøps to get some characters on my keyboård.