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There's a trust problem for that use case, though. I don't have a primary care physician because in the area I live in, there are no doctors that I can find th
by JohnFen 9mo ago
There's a trust problem for that use case, though.
I don't have a primary care physician because in the area I live in, there are no doctors that I can find that are taking new patients.
Regardless, I wouldn't want any of my medical data exposed to an AI system even if that was the only way to get health care. I simply don't trust them enough for that (and HIPAA isn't strong enough to make me more comfortable).
- nephihaha 9mo agoThe human element has already been lost in medicine in many cases, unless you are willing to pay a lot for it. Many people need that when they are sick. They want genuine support and something resembling sympathy. My friend died last weekend from cancer. Human support/contact was very important to her. AI can't do that.
- JohnFen 9mo agoTrue. But a whole lot of that loss of the human element isn't about AI one way or another. It's about doctors being ridiculously overworked.
- Zigurd 9mo agoI don't know if this is a common experience, but the first time I really needed a doctor, they spent the whole time typing on a laptop. Since that didn't result in any follow up questions or anything beyond a referral to a specialist, I suspect it was all about getting paid by the insurance company. There's a blindingly obvious fix to that part of overworked doctors.
- ceejayoz 9mo agoSome of it is justifying for insurance. But some of it is so there’s a record to refer to later when you come back. (Doctors will, for example, still tend to type plenty during an appointment in, say, the English NHS.)
- onemoresoop 9mo agoOK, AI could be used transparently to fill out forms and write down what the doctor talks to into a microphone, assist in the health staff with some tasks in the form of interchangeable tools. What we don't need is another layer of blackbox magic making everything even more murky.
- JohnFen 9mo agoI know a couple of doctors and they both told me the same thing (this is likely dependent on exactly where you are): the amount of time they can spend with any given patient is less than 15 minutes. In practice, they have to "rob peter to pay paul" and try to minimize the amount of time they spend with patients who have lesser medical needs so they can spend more time with patients who have more complicated situations.
- nephihaha 9mo ago"But a whole lot of that loss of the human element isn't about AI one way or another. It's about doctors being ridiculously overworked." My suspicion just now is that while there is a long term pattern of neglect and overwork, we are being nudged towards AI medicine in order to avoid paying out wages. (I think a similar thing will happen in law enforcement, where facial recognition networks and machines will be used in future in place of human police in many cases.)
- pedalpete 9mo agoThis is common where I live also (Sydney, Australia). However, I'm not suggesting the existing AI systems. There are health specific platforms such as Superpower, or in Australia Everlab, which are doing the blood-work, early detection type stuff. Then if there is something to address that gets handed off to a doctor.