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>>especially in the hypothetical scenario where the US is unstable? How does it feel to bury your head in the sand so hard that you can't see what's happening

>>especially in the hypothetical scenario where the US is unstable? How does it feel to bury your head in the sand so hard that you can't see what's happening around you?

loeg 9mo ago
Do you think if you just sneer hard enough, it makes your viewpoint true or persuasive? There are probably two or three different commenting guidelines this runs afoul of: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- gambiting 9mo ago
  No I just think this is so obvious by reading literally any news website for 5 minutes that I can only conclude that someone saying it's "hypothetical" is either acting maliciously or they are actually ignorant of what's going on.
- toomuchtodo 9mo ago
  You are arguing as if nothing material in the US has changed while at the same time arguing “be more polite towards my ignorance|avoidance of the situation.” It comes across as arguing in bad faith. The US can no longer be trusted based on the actions of this administration. Other countries are pragmatically and reasonably adjusting accordingly, very publicly. There are other options besides the US from an economic, trade, investment, and defense ally perspective. These are facts. Whether you believe them is a choice.
  - toomuchtodo 9mo ago
    Citation: Europe is learning that a ‘deal’ with Trump doesn’t exist - https://www.cnn.com/2026/01/21/business/trump-davos-greenland-nightcap https://www.cnn.com/2026/01/21/business/trump-davos-greenlan... - January 21st, 2026
    - hulitu 9mo ago
      Europe isn't learning anything. Europe is dreaming to be a great empire, while licking the butt of another great empire.
      - gambiting 9mo ago
        ...what? That literally makes no sense. "Europe" is not a country. "Europe" does not dream of being an empire, because it has no cohesive governing body or even identity as a whole - maybe France or UK dream of being empires but collectively? Does Slovakia or Portugal dream of being empires? That is such a naively simplistic view of how the world works it reads like it's straight from a Daily Mail or Fox News headline, which always say "Europe does X" - like, who is Europe? Are they in the room with us now? "Europe is learning" should say - (some) European states are learning, and they are learning that you cannot negotiate with convicted criminals and fascists - they will betray you on a whim because they do not answer to anyone, not even themselves.
        betty_staples 9mo ago
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        gambiting 9mo ago
        >>Europe has fantasies of being a mighty empire Again, is this Europe in the room with us? Or have you eaten too much American propaganda that treats "Europe" as if it was one country? Maybe it's time to lie down my dude.
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>>especially in the hypothetical scenario where the US is unstable? How does it feel to bury your head in the sand so hard that you can't see what's happening around you?

loeg 9mo ago

Do you think if you just sneer hard enough, it makes your viewpoint true or persuasive? There are probably two or three different commenting guidelines this runs afoul of: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

gambiting 9mo ago
No I just think this is so obvious by reading literally any news website for 5 minutes that I can only conclude that someone saying it's "hypothetical" is either acting maliciously or they are actually ignorant of what's going on.
toomuchtodo 9mo ago
You are arguing as if nothing material in the US has changed while at the same time arguing “be more polite towards my ignorance|avoidance of the situation.” It comes across as arguing in bad faith. The US can no longer be trusted based on the actions of this administration. Other countries are pragmatically and reasonably adjusting accordingly, very publicly. There are other options besides the US from an economic, trade, investment, and defense ally perspective. These are facts. Whether you believe them is a choice.
- toomuchtodo 9mo ago
  Citation: Europe is learning that a ‘deal’ with Trump doesn’t exist - https://www.cnn.com/2026/01/21/business/trump-davos-greenland-nightcap https://www.cnn.com/2026/01/21/business/trump-davos-greenlan... - January 21st, 2026
  - hulitu 9mo ago
    Europe isn't learning anything. Europe is dreaming to be a great empire, while licking the butt of another great empire.
    - gambiting 9mo ago
      ...what? That literally makes no sense. "Europe" is not a country. "Europe" does not dream of being an empire, because it has no cohesive governing body or even identity as a whole - maybe France or UK dream of being empires but collectively? Does Slovakia or Portugal dream of being empires? That is such a naively simplistic view of how the world works it reads like it's straight from a Daily Mail or Fox News headline, which always say "Europe does X" - like, who is Europe? Are they in the room with us now? "Europe is learning" should say - (some) European states are learning, and they are learning that you cannot negotiate with convicted criminals and fascists - they will betray you on a whim because they do not answer to anyone, not even themselves.
      - betty_staples 9mo ago
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        gambiting 9mo ago
        >>Europe has fantasies of being a mighty empire Again, is this Europe in the room with us? Or have you eaten too much American propaganda that treats "Europe" as if it was one country? Maybe it's time to lie down my dude.
        deleted 9mo ago
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