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The case in NY was police setup a sting on the subway to catch a serial stabber. Instead of stopping him they stood by and watched him attack several innocent

The case in NY was police setup a sting on the subway to catch a serial stabber. Instead of stopping him they stood by and watched him attack several innocent bystanders. They were sued for incompetence. For the failed sting. The two police officers who stood and watched him get attacked were ruled to be immune because they had no duty to protect him. Point being, if police see you getting attacked, they have no duty to /stop/ that from happening. Their only duty is to take a report once they feel safe enough to approach. If you see two police on the corner and think "this is a safe area" you'd completely be operating on faith in their character.

alistairSH 9mo ago
And then chain that with the ridiculous "clearly established" bar for qualified immunity and it's nigh on impossible to hold police in the US accountable for what most citizens would recognize as clear malfeasance.
bell-cot 9mo ago
If you see two police on the corner and think... Not to speak highly of the NYPD - but it is the character of most violent criminals to refrain from attacking you when police officers are standing close at hand.
- throwaway85825 9mo ago
  There's a famous video of an apple store robbery and the thief walks past a cop on the way out. Police don't do anything anymore.
  - betty_staples 9mo ago
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  - ranger_danger 9mo ago
    > Police don't do anything anymore This is false and a gross oversimplification based on one specific thing, which is that petty theft in particular has taken a backseat in many areas as it's not a felony and is usually a waste of time and money to persue, especially when the thief just gets turned loose with no big consequences.
- komali2 9mo ago
  Depends on the violent crime. I've been nearly run over in crosswalks dozens of times in view of police, sometimes when they're in traffic as well and could easily pull over the perpetrator. It's never happened.

alistairSH 9mo ago

And then chain that with the ridiculous "clearly established" bar for qualified immunity and it's nigh on impossible to hold police in the US accountable for what most citizens would recognize as clear malfeasance.

bell-cot 9mo ago

If you see two police on the corner and think... Not to speak highly of the NYPD - but it is the character of most violent criminals to refrain from attacking you when police officers are standing close at hand.

throwaway85825 9mo ago
There's a famous video of an apple store robbery and the thief walks past a cop on the way out. Police don't do anything anymore.
- betty_staples 9mo ago
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- ranger_danger 9mo ago
  > Police don't do anything anymore This is false and a gross oversimplification based on one specific thing, which is that petty theft in particular has taken a backseat in many areas as it's not a felony and is usually a waste of time and money to persue, especially when the thief just gets turned loose with no big consequences.
komali2 9mo ago
Depends on the violent crime. I've been nearly run over in crosswalks dozens of times in view of police, sometimes when they're in traffic as well and could easily pull over the perpetrator. It's never happened.