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Is this another Tailwind wrapper? Yes, it is.

by microflash 9mo ago

arm32 9mo ago
But this one costs $799 a year.
- merelysounds 9mo ago
  Pricing page if anyone else is curious: https://railsui.com/pricing https://railsui.com/pricing "Solo" plan is $299/year (1 seat), "Team" plan is $799/year (30 seats), larger plans are "inquire now".
  - cousinbryce 9mo ago
    God grant me the confidence of whoever vibe coded this
    - redfloatplane 9mo ago
      The repo was created in May 2023, and it seems like the bulk of commits were made in 2024, before vibe coding was really a thing. I think it's pretty harsh to dismiss projects in this manner.
      - justalever 9mo ago
        Thanks for noticing. It's all hand-made with a bit of AI to talk me off ledges on the gem structure/architecture front.
  - tptacek 9mo ago
    I'm not saying this product is good or bad, because I have no idea, but this is priced too low for it's claimed value prop, not too high. 25% of a decked out developer Macbook for something that sets the look and feel of an app and forestalls an entire designer hire is an unseriously low price. I'm not saying the product is unserious; just that developers are generally unserious about pricing.
    - bionsystem 9mo ago
      There are a bunch of those for free no ? Rails blocks (paid, about the same price as this Rails UI), Ruby UI (MIT licensed), I think I saw a couple more here.
    - 9rx 9mo ago
      > 25% of a decked out developer Macbook for something that sets the look and feel of an app and forestalls an entire designer hire is an unseriously low price. Potential value bounds the price upper end, but alternatives set what the customer will actually pay. There are much more comprehensive tools of similar nature that are offered for free. The (somewhat) unique value proposition it offers is in how it integrates into Rails, saving an hour of a developer's time — or a couple of minutes of an LLM's time, if the slot machine happens to work in your favour on that particular spin — required to manually do it themselves. That's worth something, but if you go too high it soon becomes more cost effective to just pay someone to put in that hour.
    - bbg2401 9mo ago
      Pricing per seat makes little sense for a component library. It forces every party involved in building an application to acquire a license, not just a designer who might otherwise have been hired once to provide the assets. Seat-based pricing suits tools people daily drive (Figma, Slack), whereas asset libraries are better priced by what you ship with them. A more natural unit for pricing would be per domain, application, environment, or similar. That said, I'm aware several UI frameworks have moved toward seat-based licensing recently, so it must be working for them in some sense.
- justalever 9mo ago
  Yes, for a 30-seat license.
justalever 9mo ago
Do you not use Tailwind? What is being wrapped? Designed and built this all as a Ruby gem, you can one-click install if you want to build prototypes with Rails even faster. I suppose you're not the target customer, but thanks for chiming in.
- microflash 9mo ago
  My apologies if this came off as too condescending and harsh. I’m coming from the receiving end of an app which uses Tailwind and many developers run wild with class-soup in their changes, causing all sorts of inconsistency. Still, does not justify the caustic comment. And I’ll be spending this entire weekend obsessing on how to do better.
tptacek 9mo ago
What does this even mean? Tailwind isn't like Bootstrap; it's a way of structuring styles, not a design language of its own.
jmuguy 9mo ago
I think their comparison page does a good job of breaking down the differences (vs Tailwind UI that is) https://railsui.com/compare/tailwind-ui-vs-rails-ui https://railsui.com/compare/tailwind-ui-vs-rails-ui

Is this another Tailwind wrapper? Yes, it is.

arm32 9mo ago

But this one costs $799 a year.

merelysounds 9mo ago
Pricing page if anyone else is curious: https://railsui.com/pricing https://railsui.com/pricing "Solo" plan is $299/year (1 seat), "Team" plan is $799/year (30 seats), larger plans are "inquire now".
- cousinbryce 9mo ago
  God grant me the confidence of whoever vibe coded this
  - redfloatplane 9mo ago
    The repo was created in May 2023, and it seems like the bulk of commits were made in 2024, before vibe coding was really a thing. I think it's pretty harsh to dismiss projects in this manner.
    - justalever 9mo ago
      Thanks for noticing. It's all hand-made with a bit of AI to talk me off ledges on the gem structure/architecture front.
- tptacek 9mo ago
  I'm not saying this product is good or bad, because I have no idea, but this is priced too low for it's claimed value prop, not too high. 25% of a decked out developer Macbook for something that sets the look and feel of an app and forestalls an entire designer hire is an unseriously low price. I'm not saying the product is unserious; just that developers are generally unserious about pricing.
  - bionsystem 9mo ago
    There are a bunch of those for free no ? Rails blocks (paid, about the same price as this Rails UI), Ruby UI (MIT licensed), I think I saw a couple more here.
  - 9rx 9mo ago
    > 25% of a decked out developer Macbook for something that sets the look and feel of an app and forestalls an entire designer hire is an unseriously low price. Potential value bounds the price upper end, but alternatives set what the customer will actually pay. There are much more comprehensive tools of similar nature that are offered for free. The (somewhat) unique value proposition it offers is in how it integrates into Rails, saving an hour of a developer's time — or a couple of minutes of an LLM's time, if the slot machine happens to work in your favour on that particular spin — required to manually do it themselves. That's worth something, but if you go too high it soon becomes more cost effective to just pay someone to put in that hour.
  - bbg2401 9mo ago
    Pricing per seat makes little sense for a component library. It forces every party involved in building an application to acquire a license, not just a designer who might otherwise have been hired once to provide the assets. Seat-based pricing suits tools people daily drive (Figma, Slack), whereas asset libraries are better priced by what you ship with them. A more natural unit for pricing would be per domain, application, environment, or similar. That said, I'm aware several UI frameworks have moved toward seat-based licensing recently, so it must be working for them in some sense.
justalever 9mo ago
Yes, for a 30-seat license.

justalever 9mo ago

Do you not use Tailwind? What is being wrapped? Designed and built this all as a Ruby gem, you can one-click install if you want to build prototypes with Rails even faster. I suppose you're not the target customer, but thanks for chiming in.

microflash 9mo ago
My apologies if this came off as too condescending and harsh. I’m coming from the receiving end of an app which uses Tailwind and many developers run wild with class-soup in their changes, causing all sorts of inconsistency. Still, does not justify the caustic comment. And I’ll be spending this entire weekend obsessing on how to do better.

tptacek 9mo ago

What does this even mean? Tailwind isn't like Bootstrap; it's a way of structuring styles, not a design language of its own.

jmuguy 9mo ago

I think their comparison page does a good job of breaking down the differences (vs Tailwind UI that is) https://railsui.com/compare/tailwind-ui-vs-rails-ui https://railsui.com/compare/tailwind-ui-vs-rails-ui