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"At least 32GB of memory is recommended for development with Skip." Dear lord, what?

dlcarrier 9mo ago
IDEs targeting mobile development saw the bloat in FPGA IDEs and said "we can beat that".
marcprux 9mo ago
Well, you're running both the iOS development tools (Xcode, iOS Simulator), plus the Android development tools (Gradle, Android emulator, and maybe Android Studio too). These add up. 16GB might be possible, though. (Skip itself doesn't take much memory. If you run it headlessly as a SwiftPM plugin, you wouldn't need nearly that much.)
- giancarlostoro 9mo ago
  Do you have to run both at the same time? Because my flow with React Native is to focus on one platform at a time, I don't try to run everything in one shot.
  - marcprux 9mo ago
    No, you can configure it to just build and launch for iOS or Android separately. But we do recommend iterating on both in parallel for most of the UI work, just to make sure that everything stays in sync. For framework/library development, you can of course build and test separately for each platform.
  - cachvico 9mo ago
    And if we're talking Expo, that's only for prebuilds of course; once you've got the native app installed then you can absolutely code and see updates in near real-time on both Android and iOS devices.
- jstummbillig 9mo ago
  Ah, yeah yeah, not meant as slight towards Skip (seems like a cool project). Just me being offended by the plain content of that sentence.
wahnfrieden 9mo ago
Likely because it uses both iOS and Android toolchains plus its own transpiler (with Skip Lite) or other overhead with Skip Fuse. iOS alone is already challenging with 16GB. Don't blame Skip for this - it's on Apple and Google for not shipping memory-efficient tooling, which shouldn't be a surprise if you've used their software.
catoc 9mo ago
I assume that’s for the development phase, not (necessarily) for apps developed with Skip
elinear 9mo ago
At current prices, if you do not already have 32GB RAM, it will cost over $300 for DDR5, and over $200 for DDR4...
- andrekandre 9mo ago
  yep, the pricing is getting ridiculous... on the other hand if you are using that 32gb to make money then its an investment thats worth it imo

IDEs targeting mobile development saw the bloat in FPGA IDEs and said "we can beat that".

Well, you're running both the iOS development tools (Xcode, iOS Simulator), plus the Android development tools (Gradle, Android emulator, and maybe Android Studio too). These add up. 16GB might be possible, though. (Skip itself doesn't take much memory. If you run it headlessly as a SwiftPM plugin, you wouldn't need nearly that much.)

giancarlostoro 9mo ago
Do you have to run both at the same time? Because my flow with React Native is to focus on one platform at a time, I don't try to run everything in one shot.
- marcprux 9mo ago
  No, you can configure it to just build and launch for iOS or Android separately. But we do recommend iterating on both in parallel for most of the UI work, just to make sure that everything stays in sync. For framework/library development, you can of course build and test separately for each platform.
- cachvico 9mo ago
  And if we're talking Expo, that's only for prebuilds of course; once you've got the native app installed then you can absolutely code and see updates in near real-time on both Android and iOS devices.
jstummbillig 9mo ago
Ah, yeah yeah, not meant as slight towards Skip (seems like a cool project). Just me being offended by the plain content of that sentence.

wahnfrieden 9mo ago

Likely because it uses both iOS and Android toolchains plus its own transpiler (with Skip Lite) or other overhead with Skip Fuse. iOS alone is already challenging with 16GB. Don't blame Skip for this - it's on Apple and Google for not shipping memory-efficient tooling, which shouldn't be a surprise if you've used their software.

catoc 9mo ago

I assume that’s for the development phase, not (necessarily) for apps developed with Skip

elinear 9mo ago

At current prices, if you do not already have 32GB RAM, it will cost over $300 for DDR5, and over $200 for DDR4...

andrekandre 9mo ago
yep, the pricing is getting ridiculous... on the other hand if you are using that 32gb to make money then its an investment thats worth it imo