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> Europe couldn't kick Russia, a country with 10x lower GDP and a decrepit army, out of Ukraine Considering how difficult Russia's advances have been inside th

by cbg0 9mo ago

> Europe couldn't kick Russia, a country with 10x lower GDP and a decrepit army, out of Ukraine Considering how difficult Russia's advances have been inside the Ukraine in the past couple of years, it would be trivial to "kick Russia out of Ukraine" if a few big players in the EU actually tried to do it.

braingravy 9mo ago
That would require a military arsenal. The EU outsourced that to the U.S. a long time ago.
- avh02 9mo ago
  Yes yes there's not a single soldier in all of Europe. Every soldier, tank, and airplane is American. No other military technology exists. America great. Seriously, I'll grant the most advanced stuff is American but you really think everybody else only has sticks, stones, and water pistols?
  - braingravy 9mo ago
    America great? Lol… I didn’t say it was a good thing. Regardless, most EU nations do spend relatively little on their military compared to the U.S., hence the reliance. Sorry to break it to you.
    - avh02 9mo ago
      > “Nothing goes over my head. My reflexes are too fast. I would catch it.” – Drax, Guardians of the Galaxy
brabel 9mo ago
> "kick Russia out of Ukraine" if a few big players in the EU actually tried to do it. And you know why they won’t do that, right? Would anyone risk a new Hiroshima in their own country to save the Donbas?
- cbg0 9mo ago
  The real fear is political due to Russia's hybrid war which has pushed a lot of pro-Russia isolationist parties ahead in many EU countries. Starting a conventional war against Russia carries a higher risk of these "pro-neutrality/pro-peace" parties rising to power than any nukes dropping. Putin is stretched very thin and this fiasco in the Ukraine has shown that Russia can barely take on one country, even though once they were touting themselves as equal or better than the US.

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> Europe couldn't kick Russia, a country with 10x lower GDP and a decrepit army, out of Ukraine Considering how difficult Russia's advances have been inside th

by cbg0 9mo ago

braingravy 9mo ago
That would require a military arsenal. The EU outsourced that to the U.S. a long time ago.
- avh02 9mo ago
  Yes yes there's not a single soldier in all of Europe. Every soldier, tank, and airplane is American. No other military technology exists. America great. Seriously, I'll grant the most advanced stuff is American but you really think everybody else only has sticks, stones, and water pistols?
  - braingravy 9mo ago
    America great? Lol… I didn’t say it was a good thing. Regardless, most EU nations do spend relatively little on their military compared to the U.S., hence the reliance. Sorry to break it to you.
    - avh02 9mo ago
      > “Nothing goes over my head. My reflexes are too fast. I would catch it.” – Drax, Guardians of the Galaxy
brabel 9mo ago
> "kick Russia out of Ukraine" if a few big players in the EU actually tried to do it. And you know why they won’t do that, right? Would anyone risk a new Hiroshima in their own country to save the Donbas?
- cbg0 9mo ago
  The real fear is political due to Russia's hybrid war which has pushed a lot of pro-Russia isolationist parties ahead in many EU countries. Starting a conventional war against Russia carries a higher risk of these "pro-neutrality/pro-peace" parties rising to power than any nukes dropping. Putin is stretched very thin and this fiasco in the Ukraine has shown that Russia can barely take on one country, even though once they were touting themselves as equal or better than the US.