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We live in a society, the government provides (or provides permission for) roads, utilities, housing and a boatload of other rules & regulation to protect peopl

We live in a society, the government provides (or provides permission for) roads, utilities, housing and a boatload of other rules & regulation to protect people. Virtually any discussion around anything will always lead back to politics because it is the central body that allows us to live the lives we want, this is why voting is important!

Ylpertnodi 9mo ago
Voting is not important to me. Never have voted, never will.
- giraffe_lady 9mo ago
  It's like returning the shopping cart at the grocery store. Other people have more work to do because you chose to do less. The action may not matter, you are free to choose, but not doing it does make you a bad citizen. Personal importance doesn't factor into it, this is an external designation.
  - elektronika 9mo ago
    > Other people have more work to do because you chose to do less. Not voting in America does not increase the burden of other people. My state has voted the same in Presidential elections for two decades. Local politicians almost always run unopposed and I don't think anyone in my lifetime has won here without an endorsement from the party in favor, so they are picked behind closed doors. Our state governor elections can swing, but ultimately one vote is a vanishingly insignificant portion of that. I vote every year out of habit, but putting the "I VOTED" sticker conspicuously on a trash can probably makes more of a difference than casting my ballot. The two party system is designed to give people an outlet for feeling like they made a difference without any risk of change for the people in power. See how people like Musk and Zuckerberg cozy up with Trump just as easily as Obama.
- InitialLastName 9mo ago
  Including on HN?
- vablings 9mo ago
  Do you live anywhere? If you have any of the following things you should consider voting A car, city water, city power, city gas, a home, land, a radio, a body, a job, a bank account, a firearm, driver's license, an income. This list goes basically forever

Ylpertnodi 9mo ago

Voting is not important to me. Never have voted, never will.

giraffe_lady 9mo ago
It's like returning the shopping cart at the grocery store. Other people have more work to do because you chose to do less. The action may not matter, you are free to choose, but not doing it does make you a bad citizen. Personal importance doesn't factor into it, this is an external designation.
- elektronika 9mo ago
  > Other people have more work to do because you chose to do less. Not voting in America does not increase the burden of other people. My state has voted the same in Presidential elections for two decades. Local politicians almost always run unopposed and I don't think anyone in my lifetime has won here without an endorsement from the party in favor, so they are picked behind closed doors. Our state governor elections can swing, but ultimately one vote is a vanishingly insignificant portion of that. I vote every year out of habit, but putting the "I VOTED" sticker conspicuously on a trash can probably makes more of a difference than casting my ballot. The two party system is designed to give people an outlet for feeling like they made a difference without any risk of change for the people in power. See how people like Musk and Zuckerberg cozy up with Trump just as easily as Obama.
InitialLastName 9mo ago
Including on HN?
vablings 9mo ago
Do you live anywhere? If you have any of the following things you should consider voting A car, city water, city power, city gas, a home, land, a radio, a body, a job, a bank account, a firearm, driver's license, an income. This list goes basically forever