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> it's hard to believe that HN users would be tired of LLM-related news. Not hard to believe at all. While I don't flag any posts. I have no interest in LLM re
by leosanchez 9mo ago
> it's hard to believe that HN users would be tired of LLM-related news.
Not hard to believe at all. While I don't flag any posts. I have no interest in LLM related content.
I also actively use AI tools btw. It's just tiring seeing everything with AI suffix including monitors.
- kotaKat 9mo agoLooks like a majority of it’s all politics and LLMs. I think we’re all as a collective tired of both and want something ‘interesting’ for once to post.
- JKCalhoun 9mo agoI get that. And if an LLM story disappears from the front page—oh well. I'll defend the political stories though. For me, all the other places out there that vend politics are truly awful. While a political post lingers briefly on the HN front page, I find I actually learn something from the comments. If there are shit-posts in the discussion, they are quickly "dead". More often though there are (seemingly) reasoned debates about the issues in the comments. I appreciate (what I am embarrassed to call) a more intellectual discussion on politics than I have been able to find anywhere else. (Embarrassed because I'm walking a fine line trying not to appear to cast the discussions as "elitist". Or maybe I am an elitist, who knows.)
- homeonthemtn 9mo agoNah, politics is a cancer that's infected everything. Let the addicts get their fix someplace else
- b40d-48b2-979e 9mo agoHand-waving everything as "politics" is not healthy. It's necessary for us to be able to make collective decisions on societal questions which is what "politics" are.
- AznHisoka 9mo agoI remembered when politics used to be called “current events”.
- bavell 9mo agoHN is the wrong forum for this.
- hobs 9mo agoThe idea that hackers are non political is very silly and very unbacked up by evidence.
- buellerbueller 9mo agoThis is what the biggest names in the VC class want you to think as they continue to enrich themselves, while (in the USA at least) they support a regime that is growing in its authoritarian output. Thiel, Musk, et. al., support, for example, Curtis Yarvin, who believes that democracy is a failed experiment and should be replaced with an all-powerful "CEO"
- ryandrake 9mo ago> Thiel, Musk, et. al., support, for example, Curtis Yarvin, who believes that democracy is a failed experiment and should be replaced with an all-powerful "CEO" These guys all benefit when the No-Politics Purity Brigade drives by and flag-kills every article pointing out their wrongdoing as "political." By flagging this stuff, they're actually making HN more political: They are defending billionaires, their agendas, and their status-quo politics.
- fzeroracer 9mo agoSo I, as a software engineer, have to deal with the impacts of this administration both making my employment harder as well as terrorizing the city I live in. Where do you suggest I would go to share these issues other than the site that is specifically for hackers and tech workers? I get that people want to make the place 'non-political', but a lot of us in the US live in major metropolitan areas and are very directly impacted by all of the shit going on.
- rune-dev 9mo agoEverything is political. Including ignoring politics.
- homeonthemtn 9mo agoOnly if you make it political.
- hobs 9mo agoIts a tired trope, but you are wrong. The haves and the have nots define everything about our society and Not Addressing The Situation is a very active choice, thus politics.
- b40d-48b2-979e 9mo agoThis is coming across to me as "things I don't like are 'politics'" if I'm being honest.
- pixl97 9mo ago"I'm not political, I stay out of politics and I don't vote" ... time passes ... "What do you mean the people that I didn't vote for are sending me to war to die?!, I'm not political, why am I involved in this" --Modern day Russia.
- nathan_compton 9mo agoThis is such a weird idea. Everything is political because there are no universally agreed upon values. Humans literally do not always agree on what the purpose of society is, what is good and what is bad, how much power we should have over one another and nature. And, as far as I can tell, neither god nor philosophy seems willing to descend from heaven in order to resolve our differences. Thus, we are stuck discussing things amongst ourselves and deciding how to move forward, a process called politics.
- bigstrat2003 9mo agoNo, just because there are no universally agreed upon values does not make everything political. People can, and frequently do, agree to live and let live when they have differences of opinion rather than wage bitter wars over those differences. We can, and must, have spaces where we can enjoy things in life rather than having division fostered between us 24/7. There is no idea more toxic to the well being of society than the idea of "everything is political".
- JKCalhoun 9mo ago"Let the addicts get their fix someplace else" Open to suggestions from anyone.
- a-french-anon 9mo agoSeeing the kind of discourse you get here, how about Reddit?
- buellerbueller 9mo agoWhen is the last time that ignoring cancer has stopped it from metastasizing?
- DangitBobby 9mo agoI feel the same way. I crave high quality political discussion about what's going on in the US and this is one of the few places I can get it. Most places just offer memes and hot takes.
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- blackcatsec 9mo agoI always agree with a good-faith, well-reasoned political argument. And HN generally seems to have a much more educated base than most of the other stuff out there--but agreed with the other person that I think it's probably best to keep that content off of HN, unfortunately.
- JKCalhoun 9mo agoPlease, point me to "Wonk News" then so I can get a reasoned discussion about what the hell is going on in the world.
- pjc50 9mo agoThat used to be possible with a carefully curated Twitter feed, then a series of bad decisions made that impossible. It's no longer even the case that reason helps. Wonkery has got run over by mass emotion.
- matsemann 9mo ago> That used to be possible with a carefully curated Twitter feed, then a series of bad decisions made that impossible But you wouldn't know from reading HN that X, the tech company, has become a shitshow, as all discussions about this are "political" and flagged by users.
- bee_rider 9mo agoIt’s not that the quality of politics posts here are very high (you get plenty of “engineers outside their domain” type stuff). Just, it is hard to find sites with * Active political discussion communities * That haven’t swung dramatically to some extreme and eventually worn down the local “opposition” party I’ve got boards I go to for politics but the ratio is so lopsided, and the one or two remaining posters that disagree with the consensus seem to be more or less sticking around out of contrarianism (which unfortunately decreases the quality of their posts). I think if HN let too many political threads stick around, that would destroy the whatever quality the discussion has.
- ThrowawayR2 9mo agoThe low quality posts and low quality responses and them being flagged makes the users affected, to use the moderators' terminology, "activated". It's not conducive to maintaining the HN we know and love. Also the site moderators have plainly said that moderating these controversial political threads is a strain on them. You may be enjoying yourself but someone else is paying a hefty price.
- esseph 9mo agoFar less concerned about ThE StReSs Of MoDeRaToRs and more concerned about legal citizens getting drug out of their home at gunpoint in front of their children.
- LooseMarmoset 9mo agoI come to HN to escape endless ragebait and political drama. HN is for me what places like Ars Technica or Slashdot used to be. Thanks, @dang! keep up the good work.
- esseph 9mo agoIf the world around you isn't "interesting" right now you are extremely lucky.
- reaperducer 9mo agotiring seeing everything with AI suffix Reminds me of when everything was e-something. Then i-something. Then net-something. Then my-something. Then cyber-something. You can tell the age of a tech product by which naming trend it attached to itself.
- Bluecobra 9mo agoDon’t forget about cloud-something! Related: HP Offers 'That Cloud Thing Everyone Is Talking About’ https://youtu.be/9ntPxdWAWq8 https://youtu.be/9ntPxdWAWq8
- Scarblac 9mo agoOn the web 3.0 blockchain.
- Cthulhu_ 9mo agoOr somethingr, crypto-something, somethingify, somethingly, something.io, sommmething / somettthing / somethingg, sqmething, somethyng, etc.
- ekropotin 9mo agosomething.io is still going strong
- IAmBroom 9mo agoI have a buddy who was a young entrepeneur, during the Dot-Com era. He renamed his company to Company Name Dot Com. A few months later the bubble burst, and those last two words were a smelly fart to potential investors. He was forced to a buy-out, kept as a VP, intentionally forced out, and accepted cash to settle their violation of terms. My hackles rose when he made the name change, but... not my business. Sad to see how quickly my intuition was validated. Would his company have survived else? Dunno, of course. But hopping onto the fad wave was, in retrospect, far more dangerous than simply navigating with the assets he had.
- miki123211 9mo ago
- wincy 9mo agoIt’s tiring for me because it seems like everyone is just spitting mad about AI, and at every opportunity they breathlessly make sure to let us all know how useless AI is, and how they are indeed the one true programmer who has no need for such base and depraved additions to their workflow. There they are, standing (or maybe hunching over?) bold and proud, on the shores of Algorithmia where no LLM could despoil that one true paragon of software engineering, as if the Platonic forms themselves deigned to come out of the realm of legend merely to demonstrate to us mortals how software ought truly be written. Anyway, I think AI is pretty neat and use it every day.
- pixl97 9mo ago>the one true programmer who has no need Yea, I see these people on HN all the time. How they've written 45 billion lines of code without ever making a mistake and they put their life and dedication into being the best programmer that never sleeps and is available 24/7, and I'm like "How come I only see you people online and never see you working in the field". Now, don't get me totally wrong, there's probably a few people out there like that, but trying to use 1%ers, or .1%ers as an example for anything is rather useless as supply and demand would make them a mythical creature with mythical pay. More often than I like I end up thinking ""I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question," after asking about the latest feature and the spaghetti .
- Forgeties79 9mo agoFeels the opposite for some of us. Lots of angry takes about people critiquing it, endless praise of how Claude code makes folks 1000x more productive, etc. It’s probably somewhere in the middle with both of us noticing the examples we find annoying more often than we notice the ones we agree with.
- JokerDan 9mo agoThe opposite is true for many of us. Having used various models, tools, agent orchestration etc.. All of these sensationalist posts of 'When I use Model X with Tooling Y I can build the world!' just don't resonate and it becomes draining to constantly have all this pushed through my eyeballs and having to filter it out. LLMs have their uses but it isn't as great as everyone makes out to be nor is it as bad as others make out it is. Every week its X model has new SWE bench and is the best in class frontier blah blah - yet its actually just much the same as the week before. Quarter to quarter you could argue there is more of a diff between capabilities and performance but the LLM news cycle is much shorter than that.
- kgwxd 9mo agoAI, politics, and discussing how HN isn't what it used to be. That's all that's here now. HN isn't what it used to be.
- toomuchtodo 9mo ago"No man ever steps in the same river twice, for it's not the same river and he's not the same man." -- Heraclitus
- Forgeties79 9mo agoI’m guilty of some political debates here no doubt but man it seems like there have been a lot new accounts lately coming in red hot and starting fights
- Teever 9mo agoHN has always had political discussions as long as I've been here. Discussions about open drug use and Bay area housing policy and California highspeed rail are political. Discussions about Snowden and the NSA are political. Discussions about the FSF and copyleft are political.
- vablings 9mo agoWe live in a society, the government provides (or provides permission for) roads, utilities, housing and a boatload of other rules & regulation to protect people. Virtually any discussion around anything will always lead back to politics because it is the central body that allows us to live the lives we want, this is why voting is important!
- Ylpertnodi 9mo agoVoting is not important to me. Never have voted, never will.
- giraffe_lady 9mo agoIt's like returning the shopping cart at the grocery store. Other people have more work to do because you chose to do less. The action may not matter, you are free to choose, but not doing it does make you a bad citizen. Personal importance doesn't factor into it, this is an external designation.
- peterspath 9mo agoI wish hacker news had filters, ... if LLM, AI, or other hyped tech... make it hidden
- firesteelrain 9mo agoSomeone made one a while back
- toomuchtodo 9mo agoBuild it! Show HN! Let https://github.com/plibither8/refined-hacker-news https://github.com/plibither8/refined-hacker-news be your inspiration. Put out the tip jar, I will tip! (Firefox first class citizen in this regard pls if possible)
- komali2 9mo agoI'm fairly certain I've seen someone create RSS feeds of HN, in which case your RSS client should be have filtering options.
- mindcrime 9mo agoYou don't need to "create" an RSS feed, HN has RSS. See: https://news.ycombinator.com/rss https://news.ycombinator.com/rss and/or https://news.ycombinator.com/bigrss https://news.ycombinator.com/bigrss
- Imustaskforhelp 9mo agoThis actually looks really cool! Especially the dark mode and the feature of showing the comments reply to which actually is something that I wanted as well! Honestly this is how Hackernews should look haha! It does take some time in firefox/zen tho in the start so its not really instant (especially the bars which are shown next to the comment to indicate who they are responding to) For some reason also, Hackernews stopped working when I installed this extension, my wifi may have glitched and I reconnected to wifi so its working now. It's pretty cool fwiw.
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- deadbabe 9mo agoWhoever finds the next interesting trend to talk about after AI is gonna get a lot of upvotes.
- yndoendo 9mo agoWith modern day clankers, you never have to wash your dishes manually ever again! /s https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dishwasher https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dishwasher
- bookofjoe 9mo agocrypto, AI/LLM... what's next in this progression?
- direwolf20 9mo agoIt could be 3D printing if the manufacturing economy collapses
- elictronic 9mo agoSpace and Robots.
- deadbabe 9mo agoGenetic programming, new life forms built for specialized tasks (eating plastics, growable solar panels, etc)
- armchairhacker 9mo agoI like significant LLM news and even well-justified opinions. I don’t like seeing essentially the same LLM opinion and justification again and again. This happens with both pro-AI and anti-AI opinions. And some of the justifications (on both sides) are poor. For example, I don’t want to read “LLMs have improved my productivity so much!” without evidence; show me a mostly AI-generated program and code, and explain the (AI-augmented) development process. On the other side, I’ve seen the “LLM inevitablism” argument multiple times, and…I don’t agree with really any of it. It ignores that LLMs are useful (to some extent), so they’ll probably be part of the future no matter what an average reader does; and if LLMs aren’t useful enough to replace everyone and everything (currently they aren’t), they won’t be all of the future, which even the people claiming inevitability are saying (and those who do claim that future LLMs will do everything, you can point to current LLMs and the CEOs of AI companies who, even in their position, are lowering expectations).
- JTbane 9mo agoI'm tired of the hype too. Yes, coding agents are useful but the bubble seems primed to pop. Agents are not profitable enough to justify the billions of investments in data centers and chips.
- NedF 9mo ago[dead]
- whynotmaybe 9mo ago> AI suffix including monitors What now ? My quick google-fu brought me this : https://www.samsung.com/ca/monitors/smart-monitor/ https://www.samsung.com/ca/monitors/smart-monitor/ I guess that if I could I adapt to cleartype when I ditched my 16" VGA Philips CRT, I'll be ready for "AI-powered Immersive Experiences", whatever that means in Visual Studio Code.
- OGWhales 9mo agoI heard of some gaming focused one, one of the examples given was AI highlighting of enemies...