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Im sorry, but i dont buy that. Unix certification has nothing to do with number of processes running or "efficiency"! The OS must be SUS compliant, i.e have all

Im sorry, but i dont buy that. Unix certification has nothing to do with number of processes running or "efficiency"! The OS must be SUS compliant, i.e have all the core interfaces in place, all the correct utilities (awk, grep, vi, sed etc) and theres something about header files, filesystem requirements etc. even if the macOS submitted for certification is super trimmed down, it does not matter as long as its a true subset of what is shipped to consumers. MacOS is certified UNIX i.e its "UNIX", like it or not. On this point the article is just wrong.

timetopay 9mo ago
Unix is both a family of operating systems and also a trademark. The name is overloaded - "Unix" is more than one thing at the same time. In addition, the trademark is "UNIX" and the operating system family is "Unix" MacOS is both UNIX and also not Unix at the same time. If the trademark holders decided to UNIX certify my cat, which is well within their legal right to do so, would that make her UNIX?
- greggsy 9mo ago
  Unlike macOS, your cat does not, and will not, meet the industry-accepted standard that describes unix as we know it today. https://www.opengroup.org/openbrand/register/xym0.htm https://www.opengroup.org/openbrand/register/xym0.htm
  - remix2000 9mo ago
    Mayhaps not with a `cat(1)` alone, but really they just need to expand their menagerie now.
  - bigyabai 9mo ago
    Like macOS, my cat does not qualify for the UNIX standard out-of-the-box and I'm far too lazy to configure my cat for an OS standard that's 25 years obsolete.
  - shiomiru 9mo ago
    > as we know it today An important nuance you seem to be missing is that SUSv3 is equivalent to "IEEE Std 1003.1-2001" (that is, POSIX 2001). In practice, I've had to work around more POSIX compatibility issues in macOS than in all other actively developed (Free) Unix-likes, combined.
- remix2000 9mo ago
  Or perhaps they just won't certify your cat just as Apple won't start making Windows PCs…?

timetopay 9mo ago

Unix is both a family of operating systems and also a trademark. The name is overloaded - "Unix" is more than one thing at the same time. In addition, the trademark is "UNIX" and the operating system family is "Unix" MacOS is both UNIX and also not Unix at the same time. If the trademark holders decided to UNIX certify my cat, which is well within their legal right to do so, would that make her UNIX?

greggsy 9mo ago
Unlike macOS, your cat does not, and will not, meet the industry-accepted standard that describes unix as we know it today. https://www.opengroup.org/openbrand/register/xym0.htm https://www.opengroup.org/openbrand/register/xym0.htm
- remix2000 9mo ago
  Mayhaps not with a `cat(1)` alone, but really they just need to expand their menagerie now.
- bigyabai 9mo ago
  Like macOS, my cat does not qualify for the UNIX standard out-of-the-box and I'm far too lazy to configure my cat for an OS standard that's 25 years obsolete.
- shiomiru 9mo ago
  > as we know it today An important nuance you seem to be missing is that SUSv3 is equivalent to "IEEE Std 1003.1-2001" (that is, POSIX 2001). In practice, I've had to work around more POSIX compatibility issues in macOS than in all other actively developed (Free) Unix-likes, combined.
remix2000 9mo ago
Or perhaps they just won't certify your cat just as Apple won't start making Windows PCs…?