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Can you explain in great details questioning the design choices made by Unity and how it is crap. I like both Unity and Gnome 3.

Karunamon 14y ago
http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/unity.html http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/unity.html http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/gnome-3.html http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/gnome-3.html Same guy, takes the words out of my mouth in both cases. Worth mentioning is that they have, admittedly, made a great deal of progress. Unity isn't the buggy mess that it was back a couple of major releases ago, which renders moot a good deal of the author's complaints. I could still do without the mandatory 3d acceleration (which wouldn't be so bad if they would leave Unity 2D alone but nope, they're killing that off.....) and the full screen , space wasting interface. I am on a desktop, not a netbook. Optimize accordingly, please. Unity is a fine interface for smaller screens and mobile devices. Not so much for the desktop.
- donniezazen 14y ago
  Thanks, one of the biggest problems with Gnome 3 is that there is not even one distribution that actively promotes Gnome 3, get rid of kinks, themes it, and make it look like modern DE/OS. Fedora is a lot of work, Arch Linux believes in KISS. On the other hand Ubuntu does everything for you.
- wtetzner 14y ago
  It seems weird to me that power users need so much GUI support. I find Gnome 3 very convenient. If I need to launch a program, I press the super key, start typing the name, and press enter. It's like using IDO mode in Emacs. As far as I'm concerned, most of the stuff they removed was just noise. There are a couple things I dislike about Gnome 3 though. There doesn't seem to be an obvious way to set the Date/Time format. Also, it's annoying that you have to install the Gnome Tweak Tool to set things like focus follows mouse, instead of it just being part of the Gnome settings. But these are pretty minor things.
- jfoutz 14y ago
  Oh, right the guy who said: "Unity 3D behaves spectacularly on all tested hardware, including old and new graphics cards. The performance is quite good, the responsiveness is great, and you even get reduced power consumption."
  - Karunamon 14y ago
    Yet it somehow causes 10fps+ drops in virtualization, and is nigh unusable on older hardware (yes yes anecdotal and meaningless i'm sure). Again, I wouldn't care if they would have just left 2d alone. I for one am getting very tired of being told how I should be using my computer.
    - jfoutz 14y ago
      See, right there, that's perfect. Concrete examples of stuff that's wrong and what they could do better. Great comment. When you say thinks like Unity is a pile of crap, i look at the pile of crap a neighbor dog left on the lawn and think that would never display emacs. Also, no gun to your head. run whatever you like man. I'm only engaging you because you're kind of being a jackass. I think you have something useful contribute, because you're clearly passionate about Unity. It's just hard to get you to say exactly what you mean.
      - Karunamon 14y ago
        >Also, no gun to your head. run whatever you like man. I'm only engaging you because you're kind of being a jackass. I'm being a jackass because frankly I am tired of Canonical's shit. I can sort of forgive unity, okay, fine, ignoring what your users want in a UI seems to be the in thing nowadays (c.f. Microsoft, Gnome). The Amazon lens was a bridge too far. I don't care if it's opt out - any form of advertising in a core OS component should be optin, not the other way around! What put the final nail in the coffin for me was Shuttleworth's flippant response to those concerns. And now with this whole "developed in secret" thing, the coffin reaches 5 feet under. As far as I can tell, Ubuntu's only real asset now is popularity. (And even that's declining, if the Distrowatch numbers mean anything...) Rank Distribution H.P.D* 1 Mint 3403 2 Mageia 2462 3 Ubuntu 2042 4 Fedora 1522 5 openSUSE 1311 If they keep going out of their way to make their users feel like they don't matter, that final advantage will also disappear.

Karunamon 14y ago

http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/unity.html http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/unity.html http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/gnome-3.html http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/gnome-3.html Same guy, takes the words out of my mouth in both cases. Worth mentioning is that they have, admittedly, made a great deal of progress. Unity isn't the buggy mess that it was back a couple of major releases ago, which renders moot a good deal of the author's complaints. I could still do without the mandatory 3d acceleration (which wouldn't be so bad if they would leave Unity 2D alone but nope, they're killing that off.....) and the full screen , space wasting interface. I am on a desktop, not a netbook. Optimize accordingly, please. Unity is a fine interface for smaller screens and mobile devices. Not so much for the desktop.

donniezazen 14y ago
Thanks, one of the biggest problems with Gnome 3 is that there is not even one distribution that actively promotes Gnome 3, get rid of kinks, themes it, and make it look like modern DE/OS. Fedora is a lot of work, Arch Linux believes in KISS. On the other hand Ubuntu does everything for you.
wtetzner 14y ago
It seems weird to me that power users need so much GUI support. I find Gnome 3 very convenient. If I need to launch a program, I press the super key, start typing the name, and press enter. It's like using IDO mode in Emacs. As far as I'm concerned, most of the stuff they removed was just noise. There are a couple things I dislike about Gnome 3 though. There doesn't seem to be an obvious way to set the Date/Time format. Also, it's annoying that you have to install the Gnome Tweak Tool to set things like focus follows mouse, instead of it just being part of the Gnome settings. But these are pretty minor things.
jfoutz 14y ago
Oh, right the guy who said: "Unity 3D behaves spectacularly on all tested hardware, including old and new graphics cards. The performance is quite good, the responsiveness is great, and you even get reduced power consumption."
- Karunamon 14y ago
  Yet it somehow causes 10fps+ drops in virtualization, and is nigh unusable on older hardware (yes yes anecdotal and meaningless i'm sure). Again, I wouldn't care if they would have just left 2d alone. I for one am getting very tired of being told how I should be using my computer.
  - jfoutz 14y ago
    See, right there, that's perfect. Concrete examples of stuff that's wrong and what they could do better. Great comment. When you say thinks like Unity is a pile of crap, i look at the pile of crap a neighbor dog left on the lawn and think that would never display emacs. Also, no gun to your head. run whatever you like man. I'm only engaging you because you're kind of being a jackass. I think you have something useful contribute, because you're clearly passionate about Unity. It's just hard to get you to say exactly what you mean.
    - Karunamon 14y ago
      >Also, no gun to your head. run whatever you like man. I'm only engaging you because you're kind of being a jackass. I'm being a jackass because frankly I am tired of Canonical's shit. I can sort of forgive unity, okay, fine, ignoring what your users want in a UI seems to be the in thing nowadays (c.f. Microsoft, Gnome). The Amazon lens was a bridge too far. I don't care if it's opt out - any form of advertising in a core OS component should be optin, not the other way around! What put the final nail in the coffin for me was Shuttleworth's flippant response to those concerns. And now with this whole "developed in secret" thing, the coffin reaches 5 feet under. As far as I can tell, Ubuntu's only real asset now is popularity. (And even that's declining, if the Distrowatch numbers mean anything...) Rank Distribution H.P.D* 1 Mint 3403 2 Mageia 2462 3 Ubuntu 2042 4 Fedora 1522 5 openSUSE 1311 If they keep going out of their way to make their users feel like they don't matter, that final advantage will also disappear.