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People like his technical opinion because they like his politics. That’s the whole grift-influencer economy. If someone is good at one thing (and validates some

People like his technical opinion because they like his politics. That’s the whole grift-influencer economy. If someone is good at one thing (and validates some of my views), then obviously he’s right about everything.

dgan 9mo ago
Dont present our hypothesis as a hard fact. I actually think it is completely false. Not only I was never interested in his political opinions, and followed him because of his humoristic takes "Linux sucks", and not about Rust or whatever; I actually never encountered a single video before joining his "lunduke journal" where his right-wing views would be visible. He has made funny videos, it was fun to watch. Its kinda hard to enjoy them now after learning he s dumb as a rock and justifies killings if you are of tje wrong nationality
themafia 9mo ago
When people feel underrepresented to the point of being bullied they turn to any voice which seems to reflect even a tiny fraction of their frustrations. There's a real mean spirit in open source lately and a lot of it seems to revolve around political views. There's become this idea that if you and I disagree on politics then it would be impossible for us to write quality software together. It's damaged a lot of good will and cohesion that used to exist within the open source software community. This used to be about making free software to people so that they weren't abused by corporations. Now it's about pushing agendas and creating exclusion criteria. There's only one group in this scenario that benefits from this outcome. If you don't like Lunduke then you should recognize the factors that give rise to people like him. Unless your solution is to completely eliminate anyone who disagrees with you then your apparent mindset only furthers the problem. I wish we could put all this aside and just enjoy open source again.
- ryan-c 9mo ago
  My existence is not political. If someone doesn't think I should have rights and/or exist and/or thinks I am inferior because of who I am, then no, we cannot write quality software together. If someone disagrees with me on tax, foreign relations, government services, defense, etc policy, sure, we can disagree and still work together. What gives rise to people like Lunduke is not a simple thing, and something I don't think society fully understands.
  - zozbot234 8mo ago
    In a way, "someone doesn't think I should have rights and/or exist and/or thinks I am inferior because of who I am" is pretty much the definition of (some kind of) politics. All sides play this game, e.g. many extremists these days argue that the "intolerant" shouldn't have rights or even exist by definition, but then the political football becomes who gets labeled as "intolerant" to begin with. (And maybe it's true that those on opposite sides cannot work together on good software, but that's easily addressed since all FLOSS licenses include the right to fork and merge changes.)
  - account42 8mo ago
    Not agreeing with a particular description or categorization of you is not the same as thinking that you don't exist and not agreeing that you should have certain non-universal rights based on that categorization or that you should be able to force others in agreeing with your views isn't the same as thinking that you shouldn't have rights period.
- sergeykish 8mo ago
  When people believe "they are product", bully Open Source developers for not following their demands and got expected response than entities appear that validate their wrongs for views (money). Lunduke spreads misinformation. That's anti Open Source, anti community.
  - skotobaza 8mo ago
    > Lunduke spreads misinformation He doesn't. He just reports events as a journalist. He doesn't fight against open source.
    - sergeykish 8mo ago
      Name how it's possible to improve security on X11 without breakig changes. Lunduke made factually wrong claims for hype. His mob are keen to attack Open Source developers.
      - snvzz 8mo ago
        >Name how it's possible to improve security on X11 without breakig changes. Namespaces. It's been done already. Look into XLibre. >Lunduke made factually wrong claims for hype. Citation needed. >His mob are keen to attack Open Source developers. Doesn't own a mob, and never happened. Horrible accusation, by the way.
        sergeykish 8mo ago
        Once you enable XLibre namespaces filtering it breaks screensharing, global hotkeys. Obviously. It is breaking change. > Doesn't own a mob, and never happened. Horrible accusation, by the way. Mob unable to response on technical question. To use logic. > Citation needed. His YouTube comment section speaks volumes. He manipulates technically uneducated.
        snvzz 8mo ago
        > Once you enable XLibre namespaces filtering it breaks screensharing, global hotkeys. Obviously. It is breaking change. Ah, the classic moving of goalposts. I'll bite: It is far from impossible, and already solved elsewhere: Most applications do not need such functionality. For those that do, provide mechanisms to request and facilitate access to such functionality when needed. Like portals do for other functionality. And a wrapper to request automatically for e.g. old binaries without source. > (further slander on Lunduke and community) Uncool.

dgan 9mo ago

Dont present our hypothesis as a hard fact. I actually think it is completely false. Not only I was never interested in his political opinions, and followed him because of his humoristic takes "Linux sucks", and not about Rust or whatever; I actually never encountered a single video before joining his "lunduke journal" where his right-wing views would be visible. He has made funny videos, it was fun to watch. Its kinda hard to enjoy them now after learning he s dumb as a rock and justifies killings if you are of tje wrong nationality

themafia 9mo ago

When people feel underrepresented to the point of being bullied they turn to any voice which seems to reflect even a tiny fraction of their frustrations. There's a real mean spirit in open source lately and a lot of it seems to revolve around political views. There's become this idea that if you and I disagree on politics then it would be impossible for us to write quality software together. It's damaged a lot of good will and cohesion that used to exist within the open source software community. This used to be about making free software to people so that they weren't abused by corporations. Now it's about pushing agendas and creating exclusion criteria. There's only one group in this scenario that benefits from this outcome. If you don't like Lunduke then you should recognize the factors that give rise to people like him. Unless your solution is to completely eliminate anyone who disagrees with you then your apparent mindset only furthers the problem. I wish we could put all this aside and just enjoy open source again.

ryan-c 9mo ago
My existence is not political. If someone doesn't think I should have rights and/or exist and/or thinks I am inferior because of who I am, then no, we cannot write quality software together. If someone disagrees with me on tax, foreign relations, government services, defense, etc policy, sure, we can disagree and still work together. What gives rise to people like Lunduke is not a simple thing, and something I don't think society fully understands.
- zozbot234 8mo ago
  In a way, "someone doesn't think I should have rights and/or exist and/or thinks I am inferior because of who I am" is pretty much the definition of (some kind of) politics. All sides play this game, e.g. many extremists these days argue that the "intolerant" shouldn't have rights or even exist by definition, but then the political football becomes who gets labeled as "intolerant" to begin with. (And maybe it's true that those on opposite sides cannot work together on good software, but that's easily addressed since all FLOSS licenses include the right to fork and merge changes.)
- account42 8mo ago
  Not agreeing with a particular description or categorization of you is not the same as thinking that you don't exist and not agreeing that you should have certain non-universal rights based on that categorization or that you should be able to force others in agreeing with your views isn't the same as thinking that you shouldn't have rights period.
sergeykish 8mo ago
When people believe "they are product", bully Open Source developers for not following their demands and got expected response than entities appear that validate their wrongs for views (money). Lunduke spreads misinformation. That's anti Open Source, anti community.
- skotobaza 8mo ago
  > Lunduke spreads misinformation He doesn't. He just reports events as a journalist. He doesn't fight against open source.
  - sergeykish 8mo ago
    Name how it's possible to improve security on X11 without breakig changes. Lunduke made factually wrong claims for hype. His mob are keen to attack Open Source developers.
    - snvzz 8mo ago
      >Name how it's possible to improve security on X11 without breakig changes. Namespaces. It's been done already. Look into XLibre. >Lunduke made factually wrong claims for hype. Citation needed. >His mob are keen to attack Open Source developers. Doesn't own a mob, and never happened. Horrible accusation, by the way.
      - sergeykish 8mo ago
        Once you enable XLibre namespaces filtering it breaks screensharing, global hotkeys. Obviously. It is breaking change. > Doesn't own a mob, and never happened. Horrible accusation, by the way. Mob unable to response on technical question. To use logic. > Citation needed. His YouTube comment section speaks volumes. He manipulates technically uneducated.
        snvzz 8mo ago
        > Once you enable XLibre namespaces filtering it breaks screensharing, global hotkeys. Obviously. It is breaking change. Ah, the classic moving of goalposts. I'll bite: It is far from impossible, and already solved elsewhere: Most applications do not need such functionality. For those that do, provide mechanisms to request and facilitate access to such functionality when needed. Like portals do for other functionality. And a wrapper to request automatically for e.g. old binaries without source. > (further slander on Lunduke and community) Uncool.