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Can your "one issue" be tweaked by adding more RAM and allocating it thusly? I'm using Void with 24gb ddr5 and frequently get system freezes during high produc

by eth0up 9mo ago

Can your "one issue" be tweaked by adding more RAM and allocating it thusly? I'm using Void with 24gb ddr5 and frequently get system freezes during high productivity. Browser tabs in the background are often contributors, but working with openshot or odb crashes often. I have several old nuc's and I might try tinycore on one. What do you or most others use it for, primarily?

Imustaskforhelp 9mo ago
I am not sure how my one issue can be fixed. It seems to be fundamentally an issue of their minimalist xorg server itself but I am pretty sure that there must be a way > I'm using Void with 24gb ddr5 and frequently get system freezes during high productivity. Browser tabs in the background are often contributors, but working with openshot or odb crashes often. Kdenlive's' pretty good for what its worth and I use Archlinux/cachy on an 8 gig system and browser tabs aren't that often atleast in here > I have several old nuc's and I might try tinycore on one. What do you or most others use it for, primarily? I used it to revive my 15 year old laptop and even ran complete modern firefox on it (its specs are 1 gigs 32 bit ram simple mini laptop) and ran wifi and ran firefox and ran pomodorokitty on it and I can sort of treat it as a second monitor It's battery is removable so I am gonna change its battery as currently the setup takes time to install and I have to install it everytime I open/it shuts down which can happen quite a lot if I don't have it plugged in so currently its shutdown for over a month but I really liked the tinkering I did with when I ran pomodorokitty on it
- fenykep 9mo ago
  I'm not sure if I understood your issue correctly but you can persist your configuration with all diskless (os is entirely in RAM) OSs as far as I know. This way you wouldn't have to install the setup after every reboot. Here is the guide for tinycore: https://wiki.tinycorelinux.net/doku.php?id=wiki:persistence_for_dummies https://wiki.tinycorelinux.net/doku.php?id=wiki:persistence_...
  - Imustaskforhelp 9mo ago
    Ah yes sorry forgot about persistence since I played with it some long time ago and the details were blurry yes I probably could do that and most likely would on the laptop but I really wanted to tinker with tinycore a lot first so I was using the non persistence mode I will probably do it later when I replace my old mini laptop's battery with a new (I think it costs less than a $ or so I have heard) but the procastination aspect is gonna have me do it to find a good shop around me to have the part etc. to probably and I am thinking of doing it after a few months but the mini laptop's still in my room :) (all be it off)
zozbot234 9mo ago
If the system totally freezes such that you can't even ssh in, that's just flaky hardware and you should replace it.
- eth0up 9mo ago
  It's a newer Lenovo vpro, not because I wanted that, but because it's what I got. It came with 16g of reputable ram, then I added 8g ~1 year ago for $20, the exact same module which is now $120. Orher than a bad ram chip, what else would be the culprit?
  - duffyjp 9mo ago
    I have 64gb in my linux machine and have managed to hardlock it a bunch of times exhausting the ram. Couldn't even REISUB a couple of times. The OOM killer stuff in Linux just doesn't work anymore by what I can gather. Buying more ram is no longer an option, so I added a 128gb swap partition on nvme. I incorrectly assumed with 64gb I didn't even need swap. No crashes since. If you don't want to move partitions around, you can add a swap file. ChatGPT or whatever can give instructions.
    - dizhn 9mo ago
      You should consider some sort of swap on ram like zswap rather than thrashing your nvme.
      - eth0up 9mo ago
        Not parent, but noted. Thanks!
        dizhn 9mo ago
        :)
      - duffyjp 9mo ago
        Thanks, yep I do have zram installed, but I'm working with mostly incompressible AI models so it really didn't help. I set it to cap at 8GB so random stuff can take advantage and I guess it helps a tiny bit, but not much. I have a free m.2 slot and may get a cheap optane drive and use that as SWAP. I've read they're not as fast as marketed for this, but at least I wouldn't have to worry about about wearing out my SSD.
knowitnone3 9mo ago
I've used it for mostly system rescue operations but it can do much more. Look at the package list for possibilities.

by eth0up 9mo ago

Imustaskforhelp 9mo ago

I am not sure how my one issue can be fixed. It seems to be fundamentally an issue of their minimalist xorg server itself but I am pretty sure that there must be a way > I'm using Void with 24gb ddr5 and frequently get system freezes during high productivity. Browser tabs in the background are often contributors, but working with openshot or odb crashes often. Kdenlive's' pretty good for what its worth and I use Archlinux/cachy on an 8 gig system and browser tabs aren't that often atleast in here > I have several old nuc's and I might try tinycore on one. What do you or most others use it for, primarily? I used it to revive my 15 year old laptop and even ran complete modern firefox on it (its specs are 1 gigs 32 bit ram simple mini laptop) and ran wifi and ran firefox and ran pomodorokitty on it and I can sort of treat it as a second monitor It's battery is removable so I am gonna change its battery as currently the setup takes time to install and I have to install it everytime I open/it shuts down which can happen quite a lot if I don't have it plugged in so currently its shutdown for over a month but I really liked the tinkering I did with when I ran pomodorokitty on it

fenykep 9mo ago
I'm not sure if I understood your issue correctly but you can persist your configuration with all diskless (os is entirely in RAM) OSs as far as I know. This way you wouldn't have to install the setup after every reboot. Here is the guide for tinycore: https://wiki.tinycorelinux.net/doku.php?id=wiki:persistence_for_dummies https://wiki.tinycorelinux.net/doku.php?id=wiki:persistence_...
- Imustaskforhelp 9mo ago
  Ah yes sorry forgot about persistence since I played with it some long time ago and the details were blurry yes I probably could do that and most likely would on the laptop but I really wanted to tinker with tinycore a lot first so I was using the non persistence mode I will probably do it later when I replace my old mini laptop's battery with a new (I think it costs less than a $ or so I have heard) but the procastination aspect is gonna have me do it to find a good shop around me to have the part etc. to probably and I am thinking of doing it after a few months but the mini laptop's still in my room :) (all be it off)

zozbot234 9mo ago

If the system totally freezes such that you can't even ssh in, that's just flaky hardware and you should replace it.

eth0up 9mo ago
It's a newer Lenovo vpro, not because I wanted that, but because it's what I got. It came with 16g of reputable ram, then I added 8g ~1 year ago for $20, the exact same module which is now $120. Orher than a bad ram chip, what else would be the culprit?
- duffyjp 9mo ago
  I have 64gb in my linux machine and have managed to hardlock it a bunch of times exhausting the ram. Couldn't even REISUB a couple of times. The OOM killer stuff in Linux just doesn't work anymore by what I can gather. Buying more ram is no longer an option, so I added a 128gb swap partition on nvme. I incorrectly assumed with 64gb I didn't even need swap. No crashes since. If you don't want to move partitions around, you can add a swap file. ChatGPT or whatever can give instructions.
  - dizhn 9mo ago
    You should consider some sort of swap on ram like zswap rather than thrashing your nvme.
    - eth0up 9mo ago
      Not parent, but noted. Thanks!
      - dizhn 9mo ago
        :)
    - duffyjp 9mo ago
      Thanks, yep I do have zram installed, but I'm working with mostly incompressible AI models so it really didn't help. I set it to cap at 8GB so random stuff can take advantage and I guess it helps a tiny bit, but not much. I have a free m.2 slot and may get a cheap optane drive and use that as SWAP. I've read they're not as fast as marketed for this, but at least I wouldn't have to worry about about wearing out my SSD.

knowitnone3 9mo ago

I've used it for mostly system rescue operations but it can do much more. Look at the package list for possibilities.