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> The good news: we shipped our differential renderer to everyone today. We rewrote our rendering system from scratch[1] and only ~1/3 of sessions see at least

> The good news: we shipped our differential renderer to everyone today. We rewrote our rendering system from scratch[1] and only ~1/3 of sessions see at least a flicker. Very, very few sessions see flickers in rapid succession which was so annoying before. Those numbers will keep dropping as people update. I'm using the latest version and see terrible flicker in tmux still. You guys should be ashamed tbh.

corndoge 9mo ago
I'm sorry for the low quality comment, but man, get some perspective.
- behnamoh 9mo ago
  > low quality comment What else do you want me to say? It's ironic that one has to jump through hoops (like this post) to get basic functionality right in a tool that claims it'll replace software engineers.
- catlifeonmars 9mo ago
  Perspective is: how hard can it possibly be? It’s a TUI. This should be able to run on a calculator. Am I missing some complexity here?
  - pennomi 9mo ago
    It’s really hard, because they’re trying to use a hammer as a hacksaw. It was simply made with ridiculous technology choices.
    - catlifeonmars 9mo ago
      I think you described 99% of commercial software :)
- gbin 9mo ago
  This seems stupid but after evaluating Claude vs Codex, this problem alone made me pick Codex. If I cannot follow what the thing is doing the tool becomes useless and expensive. I use Kitty + zellij, I love TUIs and use them all over the place, this is the only tool I know with this issue.
- pqtyw 9mo ago
  Well it's for profit company and a closed code app. How cares about "hurting their feeling" or whatever? Harsh criticism seems perfectly appropriate here...
chrislloyd 9mo ago
How tall is your tmux pane? If it's very small it might still flicker as CC tries to redraw scrollback. I've noticed several tmux users have layouts where they stack several panes on top of each other making each one quite short. Another option is to rebuild tmux from latest source so it buffers synchronized output, which should prevent the flicker entirely. If you're still seeing a terrible flicker please file a `/bug`!
- behnamoh 9mo ago
  Thanks for your response. > How tall is your tmux pane? If it's very small it might still flicker as CC tries to redraw scrollback. I've noticed several tmux users have layouts where they stack several panes on top of each other making each one quite short. It's full screen ("maximized" as tmux calls it). > Another option is to rebuild tmux from latest source so it buffers synchronized output, which should prevent the flicker entirely. I'll give it a shot.

corndoge 9mo ago

I'm sorry for the low quality comment, but man, get some perspective.

behnamoh 9mo ago
> low quality comment What else do you want me to say? It's ironic that one has to jump through hoops (like this post) to get basic functionality right in a tool that claims it'll replace software engineers.
catlifeonmars 9mo ago
Perspective is: how hard can it possibly be? It’s a TUI. This should be able to run on a calculator. Am I missing some complexity here?
- pennomi 9mo ago
  It’s really hard, because they’re trying to use a hammer as a hacksaw. It was simply made with ridiculous technology choices.
  - catlifeonmars 9mo ago
    I think you described 99% of commercial software :)
gbin 9mo ago
This seems stupid but after evaluating Claude vs Codex, this problem alone made me pick Codex. If I cannot follow what the thing is doing the tool becomes useless and expensive. I use Kitty + zellij, I love TUIs and use them all over the place, this is the only tool I know with this issue.
pqtyw 9mo ago
Well it's for profit company and a closed code app. How cares about "hurting their feeling" or whatever? Harsh criticism seems perfectly appropriate here...

chrislloyd 9mo ago

How tall is your tmux pane? If it's very small it might still flicker as CC tries to redraw scrollback. I've noticed several tmux users have layouts where they stack several panes on top of each other making each one quite short. Another option is to rebuild tmux from latest source so it buffers synchronized output, which should prevent the flicker entirely. If you're still seeing a terrible flicker please file a `/bug`!

behnamoh 9mo ago
Thanks for your response. > How tall is your tmux pane? If it's very small it might still flicker as CC tries to redraw scrollback. I've noticed several tmux users have layouts where they stack several panes on top of each other making each one quite short. It's full screen ("maximized" as tmux calls it). > Another option is to rebuild tmux from latest source so it buffers synchronized output, which should prevent the flicker entirely. I'll give it a shot.