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Haven't you done enough to wreck your reputation by now? For reference: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46685072 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=466

by jacquesm 10mo ago

Haven't you done enough to wreck your reputation by now? For reference: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46685072 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46685072

hnnoreputation 10mo ago
Who cares about reputation? He's spent countless hours advocating for telcos and neutering the FCC without disclosing the significant income he earned or his work as a telco lobbyist, so why start now?
- jacquesm 10mo ago
  That's news to me. Citation needed, and as much as I detest Rayiner and what he stands for I think that if you make statements like that you should do it under your real account.
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  - rayiner 10mo ago
    I've never worked as a lobbyist. I'll also point out that nobody who works for Google/Meta/etc. "discloses" that fact, even though those companies have a vested financial interest in commoditizing broadband as layer below their services: https://gwern.net/complement https://gwern.net/complement. Folks on HN have a strong financial industry in turning telecom infrastructure into “dumb pipes” so their employers can capture the quasi-monopoly profits at the next level up. Also, the accusation I post on HN for self interest is hilarious. If that was true I’d pretend to be a liberal.
epolanski 10mo ago
Also, he seems unaware Danes lost 42 souls joining US wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. So far, the relationship has been only of Danes giving.
rayiner 10mo ago
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- TimorousBestie 10mo ago
  > Why do you always respond to substantive posts with feelings and personal attacks? You get the audience that responds to you, mate. If what you want is reasoned debate, you need to apply positive feedback when people come to you with reasoned debate. You’re negatively conditioning the “reasoned debate” population with every ideological screed. Then there’s the willingness to violate social norms (e.g., zero respect for foreign soldiers who died for your country) and insult or denigrate people on the basis of their culture/religion/status. That probably doesn’t help you find dispassionate debate partners.
  - rayiner 10mo ago
    Wait—when did I “disrespect” Danish soldiers? I love Danish people. I literally use them as an example of a local optimum in civilizational development. But that doesn’t change the fact that “US + Denmark against China” is basically the same war as “US against China.” In my post I literally spelled out why Denmark is militarily insignificant: it’s got a population the size of Maryland. Obviously this wasn’t a comment on the courage of Danish soldiers. Grown ups should be able to have a discussion about generalities without getting emotionally invested in them.
    - Jtsummers 10mo ago
      > I love Danish people. You love the Danish people, but you're ok with the US threatening war against them and removing itself from NATO over a piece of land that we don't need? There is no rationality in your position. Loving people shouldn't lead to attacking them, that's the abuser's mindset, and in that there is no real love.
    - TimorousBestie 10mo ago
      > Wait—when did I “disrespect” Danish soldiers? I feel like I’ve seen commenters called out here for misquoting their interlocutors before, so perhaps it’s worth noting here. (I said “zero respect” earlier, but his emotional appeal works better if I had said “disrespect.”)
_zagj 10mo ago
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Haven't you done enough to wreck your reputation by now? For reference: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46685072 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46685072

hnnoreputation 10mo ago

Who cares about reputation? He's spent countless hours advocating for telcos and neutering the FCC without disclosing the significant income he earned or his work as a telco lobbyist, so why start now?

jacquesm 10mo ago
That's news to me. Citation needed, and as much as I detest Rayiner and what he stands for I think that if you make statements like that you should do it under your real account.
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- rayiner 10mo ago
  I've never worked as a lobbyist. I'll also point out that nobody who works for Google/Meta/etc. "discloses" that fact, even though those companies have a vested financial interest in commoditizing broadband as layer below their services: https://gwern.net/complement https://gwern.net/complement. Folks on HN have a strong financial industry in turning telecom infrastructure into “dumb pipes” so their employers can capture the quasi-monopoly profits at the next level up. Also, the accusation I post on HN for self interest is hilarious. If that was true I’d pretend to be a liberal.

epolanski 10mo ago

Also, he seems unaware Danes lost 42 souls joining US wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. So far, the relationship has been only of Danes giving.

rayiner 10mo ago

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TimorousBestie 10mo ago
> Why do you always respond to substantive posts with feelings and personal attacks? You get the audience that responds to you, mate. If what you want is reasoned debate, you need to apply positive feedback when people come to you with reasoned debate. You’re negatively conditioning the “reasoned debate” population with every ideological screed. Then there’s the willingness to violate social norms (e.g., zero respect for foreign soldiers who died for your country) and insult or denigrate people on the basis of their culture/religion/status. That probably doesn’t help you find dispassionate debate partners.
- rayiner 10mo ago
  Wait—when did I “disrespect” Danish soldiers? I love Danish people. I literally use them as an example of a local optimum in civilizational development. But that doesn’t change the fact that “US + Denmark against China” is basically the same war as “US against China.” In my post I literally spelled out why Denmark is militarily insignificant: it’s got a population the size of Maryland. Obviously this wasn’t a comment on the courage of Danish soldiers. Grown ups should be able to have a discussion about generalities without getting emotionally invested in them.
  - Jtsummers 10mo ago
    > I love Danish people. You love the Danish people, but you're ok with the US threatening war against them and removing itself from NATO over a piece of land that we don't need? There is no rationality in your position. Loving people shouldn't lead to attacking them, that's the abuser's mindset, and in that there is no real love.
  - TimorousBestie 10mo ago
    > Wait—when did I “disrespect” Danish soldiers? I feel like I’ve seen commenters called out here for misquoting their interlocutors before, so perhaps it’s worth noting here. (I said “zero respect” earlier, but his emotional appeal works better if I had said “disrespect.”)

_zagj 10mo ago

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