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It’s still better than the alternatives

by dymk 9mo ago

metalliqaz 9mo ago
I think that may depend a lot on just what you're used to. Having never been in there, I can't imagine buying in now.
css_apologist 9mo ago
Once we grow up as a nation and legalize competing app stores on native Android and iOS you can try to make this point However, the alternatives are currently illegal, so your point doesn't hold
- dymk 9mo ago
  Then they're not really alternatives, are they?
  - css_apologist 9mo ago
    technically jailbreak stores count, but not practically comparable
NBJack 9mo ago
In what ways? Apple, IMHO, has been jumping on every proverbial band wagon. And some of its 'better intended' changes like ATT seem only to have been to stifle competition while they set up their own solution.
- dymk 9mo ago
  Well, the alternatives is Android and... not really much else, for a full-featured smartphone. Say what you will about Apple, they're not perfect, but they have a better track record w.r.t privacy than Google in every way. I'm not saying I like what Apple is doing here, but I trust Google a lot less with my data.
  - abustamam 9mo ago
    There are ways to have full featured smartphones without Google, like Graphene OS. I am not aware of any alternatives that exist for Apple devices though
    - axelthegerman 9mo ago
      This! Sure you might need a Google account for your android but you don't HAVE to use all their services. First just don't use Gmail, docs, search, chrome and co. But even better get a Pixel with Graphene and Google's invasive tactics are even more limited. However it is sad that a company like Apple that used to produce superior hardware with superior UX is falling apart on all fronts - hardware (especially pricing), UX (hello glass design), software (macos just getting worse every release without adding ANYTHING of value) And now introducing more and more ads while keep selling you "pro" laptops with 512GB SSD :-/
      - like_any_other 9mo ago
        > you might need a Google account for your android You don't. LineageOS works without a Google account. I would be surprised if GrapheneOS worked differently.
ulrikrasmussen 9mo ago
Only if you hate digital freedom

It’s still better than the alternatives

by dymk 9mo ago

It’s still better than the alternatives

metalliqaz 9mo ago

I think that may depend a lot on just what you're used to. Having never been in there, I can't imagine buying in now.

css_apologist 9mo ago

Once we grow up as a nation and legalize competing app stores on native Android and iOS you can try to make this point However, the alternatives are currently illegal, so your point doesn't hold

dymk 9mo ago
Then they're not really alternatives, are they?
- css_apologist 9mo ago
  technically jailbreak stores count, but not practically comparable

NBJack 9mo ago

In what ways? Apple, IMHO, has been jumping on every proverbial band wagon. And some of its 'better intended' changes like ATT seem only to have been to stifle competition while they set up their own solution.

dymk 9mo ago
Well, the alternatives is Android and... not really much else, for a full-featured smartphone. Say what you will about Apple, they're not perfect, but they have a better track record w.r.t privacy than Google in every way. I'm not saying I like what Apple is doing here, but I trust Google a lot less with my data.
- abustamam 9mo ago
  There are ways to have full featured smartphones without Google, like Graphene OS. I am not aware of any alternatives that exist for Apple devices though
  - axelthegerman 9mo ago
    This! Sure you might need a Google account for your android but you don't HAVE to use all their services. First just don't use Gmail, docs, search, chrome and co. But even better get a Pixel with Graphene and Google's invasive tactics are even more limited. However it is sad that a company like Apple that used to produce superior hardware with superior UX is falling apart on all fronts - hardware (especially pricing), UX (hello glass design), software (macos just getting worse every release without adding ANYTHING of value) And now introducing more and more ads while keep selling you "pro" laptops with 512GB SSD :-/
    - like_any_other 9mo ago
      > you might need a Google account for your android You don't. LineageOS works without a Google account. I would be surprised if GrapheneOS worked differently.

ulrikrasmussen 9mo ago

Only if you hate digital freedom