Well, IMO it was not self given. It is degenerating now, we can agree on that, to the degree that it is bullying. It bears a sad resemblance to the abuse of po

Well, IMO it was not self given. It is degenerating now, we can agree on that, to the degree that it is bullying. It bears a sad resemblance to the abuse of power one can see on youtube, speaking of police.