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> Let's say you live in an apartment building and your landlord locks you out and keeps you belongings. Police say it’s not their problem. Courts decide that th
by kcplate 9mo ago
> Let's say you live in an apartment building and your landlord locks you out and keeps you belongings. Police say it’s not their problem. Courts decide that they don't aare either. So now you have no recourse or body to complain to.
If all of the enforcement bodies and normal legal peaceful channels available to you don’t agree with your assessment there is probably a “why”. If the reason that your property was seized is because you chose to not pay your rent, then I am not sure understanding, sympathy, or joining in violence would be an appropriate response.
- antisol 9mo agoIf all of the enforcement bodies and normal legal peaceful channels available to you don’t agree with your assessment there is probably a “why” Yeah, like maybe you didn't have $50,000 to appeal a bad decision made because a magistrate couldn't be bothered actually reading the evidence in front of them.
- kcplate 9mo agoIf the case was truly just I suspect you could find pro bono or contingency legal services to handle your appeal much easier than people sympathetic to the violence.
- antisol 9mo agook, I happen to be looking for exactly that right now. Why don't you find me one.
- kcplate 9mo agoWell you know…If you are having trouble, you might consider that as a referendum on just how strong your case actually is. Good luck
- antisol 9mo agoThis response is offensive in its ignorance
- kcplate 9mo agoYou know, it was you that decided to drag your personal situation into the conversation, not me. Be offended, or not—I’m indifferent.
- antisol 9mo agoYou know, I look forward to the day this unjust system that you blindly and stupidly trust bites you, too.
- kcplate 9mo agoAnd if that day comes I still won’t resort to violence…or even consider it. Good luck.
- antisol 9mo agoWhen exactly did I say that I would resort to violence, or considered violence, or advocate for it, or suggest it?
- kcplate 9mo agoYou are commenting about legal avenues not going your way on a thread literally about the concept of a violent response being justified for people when normal legal avenues don’t go your way.
- antisol 9mo agoWell I mean that's nice for you but I'm not sure how it responds to the question asked - when did I say anything about violence being justified? I merely responded to your ignorant and empirically incorrect fantasy-world assumption that the legal system is always right.
- thrance 9mo agoFraudsters usually don't resort to violence once they get caught. In your contrived example, the guy would probably end up paying what he owed and that would be that. Violence mostly emerges from people who feel that they are treated unfairly, and can't use civil channels to solve their issues. Which is why it's important to build a society that treats people fairly.
- kcplate 9mo ago> Which is why it's important to build a society that treats people fairly. Who gets to measure that though? I don’t think we can assume that the presence of violence automatically indicates that society isn’t fair.
- thrance 9mo ago> I don’t think we can assume that the presence of violence automatically indicates that society isn’t fair. I think it does, actually. The more unequal the country, the more violent it is. Which is why the best way to get rid of crime is not to give unlimited funding to the police (that has been shown to be very ineffective, and ruinous), it's to make sure no one needs to commit it. That will never get rid of all crimes, of course. https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/2018/06/07/the-stark-relationship-between-income-inequality-and-crime https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/2018/06/07/the-star...