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Parity? Their EVs are streets ahead, doubly so for the price.

by msy 8mo ago

protocolture 8mo ago
I dont drive one of their EV's, but the 20+ year veteran Diesel Engineer who took my DPF filter complaint escalation does and thats really all I need to know. After I run my current vehicle into the ground, that will probably be next.
- fy20 8mo ago
  Similar story here. I know a guy who does chip tuning as his career. He bought a Tesla last year, and he's more than happy with it.
IrishTechie 8mo ago
Other than price, in what ways are they streets ahead? I’m a bit of an EV nerd and that would not be my assessment at all. Unfortunately for Western manufacturers price/volume is probably the most important thing right now, so they are still in serious trouble.
- KoolKat23 8mo ago
  Well the software for one (excluding Tesla), it's faster, more advanced, more creative (probably more gimmicks but still). Domestically (in China) they also offer much higher charging wattage. But yes quality is at parity and they're cheaper.
  - formerly_proven 8mo ago
    Most Chinese cars still have massive software quality issues that you don’t hear about because there are few of them around here. ADAS are usually much worse as well.
    - protocolture 8mo ago
      My biggest software issue with my GWM relates to how they gamed the DPF, which is a local requirement. They built in the required automaticaly regenerating DPF, but also set the temperature/rev requirement so that it never automatically regenerates (even if it indicates it is doing so). So I have to manually regenerate every other month. Otherwise the software is pretty good, with the occasional midflight reboot.Its definitely no worse than the honda I ran previously.
- epolanski 8mo ago
  Interiors imho. Their interiors on midrange+ vehicles seems leagues ahead of European automakers. A 100k+ euros Mercedes Benz E class doesn't even get you real leather from a decade (by the way I prefer MB tex, but what are you paying for exactly?).

Parity? Their EVs are streets ahead, doubly so for the price.

by msy 8mo ago

Parity? Their EVs are streets ahead, doubly so for the price.

I dont drive one of their EV's, but the 20+ year veteran Diesel Engineer who took my DPF filter complaint escalation does and thats really all I need to know. After I run my current vehicle into the ground, that will probably be next.

fy20 8mo ago
Similar story here. I know a guy who does chip tuning as his career. He bought a Tesla last year, and he's more than happy with it.

IrishTechie 8mo ago

Other than price, in what ways are they streets ahead? I’m a bit of an EV nerd and that would not be my assessment at all. Unfortunately for Western manufacturers price/volume is probably the most important thing right now, so they are still in serious trouble.

KoolKat23 8mo ago
Well the software for one (excluding Tesla), it's faster, more advanced, more creative (probably more gimmicks but still). Domestically (in China) they also offer much higher charging wattage. But yes quality is at parity and they're cheaper.
- formerly_proven 8mo ago
  Most Chinese cars still have massive software quality issues that you don’t hear about because there are few of them around here. ADAS are usually much worse as well.
  - protocolture 8mo ago
    My biggest software issue with my GWM relates to how they gamed the DPF, which is a local requirement. They built in the required automaticaly regenerating DPF, but also set the temperature/rev requirement so that it never automatically regenerates (even if it indicates it is doing so). So I have to manually regenerate every other month. Otherwise the software is pretty good, with the occasional midflight reboot.Its definitely no worse than the honda I ran previously.
epolanski 8mo ago
Interiors imho. Their interiors on midrange+ vehicles seems leagues ahead of European automakers. A 100k+ euros Mercedes Benz E class doesn't even get you real leather from a decade (by the way I prefer MB tex, but what are you paying for exactly?).