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> How can you claim it to be zero relevance when the discussion is about incumbent US President not deserving the Nobel Peace Prize If I wrote "Argentina didn'

> How can you claim it to be zero relevance when the discussion is about incumbent US President not deserving the Nobel Peace Prize If I wrote "Argentina didn't deserve to win the 2022 World Cup" would you reply with an unhinged rant about France not deserving their 1998 win? > Henry Kissinger should also be squarely blamed, though he himself got the Nobel Peace Prize. Finally I was afraid we weren't going to get to Italy's '82 title! > But I see you are making excuses for the US Presidents not being able to stop wars their country started or involved in. Are you going to answer my question or just put words in my mouth? > Is that your excuse now to ignore Trump's wrongdoings? My what? My guy, you need to take a deep breath and not pretend people are saying things they aren't.

vee-kay 9mo ago
Please learn to read and comprehend. I have rebutted both of your illogical arguments. YOU SAID>This is run of the mill copypasta about Obama's Nobel Prize and has zero relevance to whether or not Trump not getting the award is casus belli against a completely different country. It is indeed relevant, and I have already given you solid examples to show that US Presidents need no excuse to wage wars. Two US Presidents (Obama and Trump) have both been shameless about the Nobel Peace Prize (Obama went and accepted AFTER signing off on wars. Trump has started wars AFTER he didn't get Nobel Peace Price despite his attempts at playing peacemaker). YOU SAID>However I am interested to hear your plan for Obama ending the wars that Cheney dumped on him. If you want to illogically claim that a Vice President of USA is responsible for wars, rather than its President, I will take it as your obvious athempt to deviate the attention away from the wars "signed off" by the President, and I would like to remind you that the President of the United States holds the title of Commander-in-Chief of the U.S. military. The buck stops there... With the President of the USA. Irrespective of who is the Vice President and what has been done prior to the person taking up the role as the President. He (or she, if that ever happens) as the President of USA, has the unassailable right and power to stop the country's involvement in any war where the nation's military may be involved, and certainly so, if it is already leading a war. And even if we take your argument that Cheney dumped wars on Obama, then Obama knew about it on the first day of taking oath as President of the United States of America! So why did Obama go and personally collect the Nobel Peace Prize the next year, when he knew he has not shut down any wars, and when he had in fact, already signed off on further escalations of the existing wars and started more conflicts? ------------ Let my little assistant help you out with the homework you ought to have done on this topic. Below is a timeline cross-reference of Obama’s Nobel Peace Prize (2009) and U.S. wars / major military actions. Summary: It is overwhelmingly likely (and effectively certain) that Obama knew he was overseeing active wars and new military escalations before he went to collect the Nobel Peace Prize. https://chatgpt.com/s/t_696eb7d8344c81918204cafb96b10f9a https://chatgpt.com/s/t_696eb7d8344c81918204cafb96b10f9a
- cosmicgadget 9mo ago
  If you recall, this was my request: > I am interested to hear your plan for Obama ending the wars that Cheney dumped on him. Are you just trying to run out this clock with trying to relitigate who was ultimately responsible for Iraq and Afghanistan? I am guessing you have no answer because you can just barf copypasta about warmongering US presidents.
  - vee-kay 9mo ago
    Ah, so you finally agree that Obama was a warmonger. Like his predecessor (Bush Ke.). And his successor (Trump Sr.). Good, we can close this thread then.
    - cosmicgadget 9mo ago
      Did I agree to that? > I am interested to hear your plan for Obama ending the wars that Cheney dumped on him. I think all you have is hamfisted critcisms of western leaders.
      - vee-kay 9mo ago
        Anyone with half a logical mind here can see you've lost your illogical arguments. Whether you agree to something or not, is thus immaterial. The facts I've cited are all historic and can be verified online easily. If you are so touchy about some "western leaders", maybe you shouldn't condone their wrongdoings with illogical excuses. And if they do evil, they least they can do is handle some criticism from the world.
        cosmicgadget 9mo ago
        > I am interested to hear your plan for Obama ending the wars that Cheney dumped on him.

vee-kay 9mo ago

Please learn to read and comprehend. I have rebutted both of your illogical arguments. YOU SAID>This is run of the mill copypasta about Obama's Nobel Prize and has zero relevance to whether or not Trump not getting the award is casus belli against a completely different country. It is indeed relevant, and I have already given you solid examples to show that US Presidents need no excuse to wage wars. Two US Presidents (Obama and Trump) have both been shameless about the Nobel Peace Prize (Obama went and accepted AFTER signing off on wars. Trump has started wars AFTER he didn't get Nobel Peace Price despite his attempts at playing peacemaker). YOU SAID>However I am interested to hear your plan for Obama ending the wars that Cheney dumped on him. If you want to illogically claim that a Vice President of USA is responsible for wars, rather than its President, I will take it as your obvious athempt to deviate the attention away from the wars "signed off" by the President, and I would like to remind you that the President of the United States holds the title of Commander-in-Chief of the U.S. military. The buck stops there... With the President of the USA. Irrespective of who is the Vice President and what has been done prior to the person taking up the role as the President. He (or she, if that ever happens) as the President of USA, has the unassailable right and power to stop the country's involvement in any war where the nation's military may be involved, and certainly so, if it is already leading a war. And even if we take your argument that Cheney dumped wars on Obama, then Obama knew about it on the first day of taking oath as President of the United States of America! So why did Obama go and personally collect the Nobel Peace Prize the next year, when he knew he has not shut down any wars, and when he had in fact, already signed off on further escalations of the existing wars and started more conflicts? ------------ Let my little assistant help you out with the homework you ought to have done on this topic. Below is a timeline cross-reference of Obama’s Nobel Peace Prize (2009) and U.S. wars / major military actions. Summary: It is overwhelmingly likely (and effectively certain) that Obama knew he was overseeing active wars and new military escalations before he went to collect the Nobel Peace Prize. https://chatgpt.com/s/t_696eb7d8344c81918204cafb96b10f9a https://chatgpt.com/s/t_696eb7d8344c81918204cafb96b10f9a

cosmicgadget 9mo ago
If you recall, this was my request: > I am interested to hear your plan for Obama ending the wars that Cheney dumped on him. Are you just trying to run out this clock with trying to relitigate who was ultimately responsible for Iraq and Afghanistan? I am guessing you have no answer because you can just barf copypasta about warmongering US presidents.
- vee-kay 9mo ago
  Ah, so you finally agree that Obama was a warmonger. Like his predecessor (Bush Ke.). And his successor (Trump Sr.). Good, we can close this thread then.
  - cosmicgadget 9mo ago
    Did I agree to that? > I am interested to hear your plan for Obama ending the wars that Cheney dumped on him. I think all you have is hamfisted critcisms of western leaders.
    - vee-kay 9mo ago
      Anyone with half a logical mind here can see you've lost your illogical arguments. Whether you agree to something or not, is thus immaterial. The facts I've cited are all historic and can be verified online easily. If you are so touchy about some "western leaders", maybe you shouldn't condone their wrongdoings with illogical excuses. And if they do evil, they least they can do is handle some criticism from the world.
      - cosmicgadget 9mo ago
        > I am interested to hear your plan for Obama ending the wars that Cheney dumped on him.