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This is similar to the rules of other subs. It's a natural backlash of anti AI sentiment. Eventually they will reverse course as living in seclusion like that

This is similar to the rules of other subs. It's a natural backlash of anti AI sentiment. Eventually they will reverse course as living in seclusion like that often doesn't work very well.

thewebguyd 9mo ago
Some of it is pure backlash against AI, but there's still solid reasoning for not allowing it. A lot of the little vibe coded self hosted utilities were made by folks with zero software development experience, over a weekend. These are apps where people need to be able to trust them to be exposed to the internet, and trust them with their data. Allowing zero-experience, purely vibe coded software in this environment is a recipe for disaster. I've no problem with folks vibing their own little tools for use at home, but that doesn't mean it needs to be shared, and it a lot of cases, it probably shouldn't unless you really know what you are doing.
- miladyincontrol 9mo ago
  > These are apps where people need to be able to trust them to be exposed to the internet Are they though? I'd argue the vast majority of even non-AI coded projects talked about on r/selfhosted are ones you would not want exposed publicly, even if they are in theory relatively secure.
- ddtaylor 9mo ago
  > A lot of the little vibe coded self hosted utilities were made by folks with zero software development experience, over a weekend. That doesn't change anything IMO. Software is not defined by how long it takes to make. Software is not defined by how hard it was to make. Software is not defined by what pen it was crafted with. If you want to make a rule against poor or low-quality submissions or poorly reviewed code, just do that.
ranger207 9mo ago
They probably won't reverse course, as the problem isn't the AI (or else they would've banned it completely), but instead the AI submissions crowding out all other discussion. There's lots of subs that do things like this; for example /r/games limits self-posts by indie game developers to Sundays
- ddtaylor 9mo ago
  I feel we have seen the same thing happen on HN and yet here we are.

This is similar to the rules of other subs. It's a natural backlash of anti AI sentiment. Eventually they will reverse course as living in seclusion like that often doesn't work very well.

thewebguyd 9mo ago

Some of it is pure backlash against AI, but there's still solid reasoning for not allowing it. A lot of the little vibe coded self hosted utilities were made by folks with zero software development experience, over a weekend. These are apps where people need to be able to trust them to be exposed to the internet, and trust them with their data. Allowing zero-experience, purely vibe coded software in this environment is a recipe for disaster. I've no problem with folks vibing their own little tools for use at home, but that doesn't mean it needs to be shared, and it a lot of cases, it probably shouldn't unless you really know what you are doing.

miladyincontrol 9mo ago
> These are apps where people need to be able to trust them to be exposed to the internet Are they though? I'd argue the vast majority of even non-AI coded projects talked about on r/selfhosted are ones you would not want exposed publicly, even if they are in theory relatively secure.
ddtaylor 9mo ago
> A lot of the little vibe coded self hosted utilities were made by folks with zero software development experience, over a weekend. That doesn't change anything IMO. Software is not defined by how long it takes to make. Software is not defined by how hard it was to make. Software is not defined by what pen it was crafted with. If you want to make a rule against poor or low-quality submissions or poorly reviewed code, just do that.

ranger207 9mo ago

They probably won't reverse course, as the problem isn't the AI (or else they would've banned it completely), but instead the AI submissions crowding out all other discussion. There's lots of subs that do things like this; for example /r/games limits self-posts by indie game developers to Sundays

ddtaylor 9mo ago
I feel we have seen the same thing happen on HN and yet here we are.