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Is it a silver lining? I think it's clear that whoever runs any government is free to do whatever they want with total impunity. Dissatisfied citizens complaini

by sph 10mo ago

Is it a silver lining? I think it's clear that whoever runs any government is free to do whatever they want with total impunity. Dissatisfied citizens complaining on Twitter is not gonna remove any "pro-corpo anti-citizen" politician from power. And if they take it to the streets, they'll just copy the UK's playbook. Power corrupts, and the more steps removed politicians are from whomever put them in power, the safer they are.

Sharlin 10mo ago
There's a fair chance that discordant voices in the Parliament will grow increasingly stronger, party affiliations notwithstanding. It wouldn't be the first time that the Parliament has asserted its power over the Commission.
hardlianotion 10mo ago
> And if they take it to the streets, they'll just copy the UK's playbook. What is the UK's playbook in this case?
- immibis 10mo ago
  Call all the dissidents terrorists and arrest/deport them under terrorism law
  - johnnyanmac 10mo ago
    If it becomes big enough, they can't "deport" everyone. The only silver lining in the US right now is that it is way too big (and too stupid) to pull off this sad excuse of a blitzkrieg on its citizens.
    - immibis 10mo ago
      Sure they can. Look how efficiently Germany did it.
      - johnnyanmac 10mo ago
        I won't say they didn't try their darnedest. But estimations at the very highest but the count at 10 million (this is a very generous number) and Germany had a population of 80 million at the time. 12% is scary, but still something you can overcome. I really hope I'm not proven wrong, but something of that scale is nearly impossible to pull off in optics with the amount of recording we can do now. The equivalent in America is about 40m Americans being "deported". That's the entire Californian population and then some.
        immibis 10mo ago
        Recording makes it easier because you can get people on your side by making it look heroic and cool - for example, see Is-real. It's famously impossible to make an anti-war movie because explosions and machine guns look cool on-screen.
  - hardlianotion 10mo ago
    If it’s a playbook, it’s not used effectively.

by sph 10mo ago

Sharlin 10mo ago

There's a fair chance that discordant voices in the Parliament will grow increasingly stronger, party affiliations notwithstanding. It wouldn't be the first time that the Parliament has asserted its power over the Commission.

hardlianotion 10mo ago

> And if they take it to the streets, they'll just copy the UK's playbook. What is the UK's playbook in this case?

immibis 10mo ago
Call all the dissidents terrorists and arrest/deport them under terrorism law
- johnnyanmac 10mo ago
  If it becomes big enough, they can't "deport" everyone. The only silver lining in the US right now is that it is way too big (and too stupid) to pull off this sad excuse of a blitzkrieg on its citizens.
  - immibis 10mo ago
    Sure they can. Look how efficiently Germany did it.
    - johnnyanmac 10mo ago
      I won't say they didn't try their darnedest. But estimations at the very highest but the count at 10 million (this is a very generous number) and Germany had a population of 80 million at the time. 12% is scary, but still something you can overcome. I really hope I'm not proven wrong, but something of that scale is nearly impossible to pull off in optics with the amount of recording we can do now. The equivalent in America is about 40m Americans being "deported". That's the entire Californian population and then some.
      - immibis 10mo ago
        Recording makes it easier because you can get people on your side by making it look heroic and cool - for example, see Is-real. It's famously impossible to make an anti-war movie because explosions and machine guns look cool on-screen.
- hardlianotion 10mo ago
  If it’s a playbook, it’s not used effectively.