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Trump links Greenland dispute to not getting Nobel Peace Prize

63 points by ndsipa_pomu 10mo ago

DustinEchoes 10mo ago
> Considering your Country decided not to give me the Nobel Peace Prize for having stopped 8 Wars PLUS, I no longer feel an obligation to think purely of Peace, although it will always be predominant, but can now think about what is good and proper' for the US No words
- ndsipa_pomu 9mo ago
  Two words: schoolyard bully It's just so ridiculous as "your Country" doesn't decide who gets the Nobel Peace Prize.
  - AnimalMuppet 9mo ago
    Trump thinks every country runs by command from on top, just as he attempts to run America.
  - vee-kay 9mo ago
    Which would be true if the Nobel Peace Prize wasn't given to Barack Obama (and never revoked despite the overwhelming evidence his actions led to more wars). Because he shamelessly went to Geneva to personally collect the Nobel Peace Prize AFTER he has signed off to start new wars from the beginning of his first tenure. In fact, Barack Obama is the only two-term US President who kept the nation officially involved throughout his tenures. It is evident.. Barack Obama got the Nobel Peace Prize not because he was the doyen of peace (no, he was the harbinger of wars), but because he was the first Black President in the history of the United States of America. And there are other examples where the genuineness and sincerity of the Nobel Committee can be questioned. Ironically, Donald Trump has directly or indirectly dismantled or paused more wars than Obama started (and continued). However, to think of him as a soothsayer of peace is foolhardiness. He is deep in the pockets of the wealthy elites, and does whatever's best for them and him. He doesn't deserve the Nobel Peace Prize either.
    - expedition32 9mo ago
      This is Obama Derangement Syndrome.
      - vee-kay 9mo ago
        A simple Google search of the wars started/involved by USA under the regime of Obama should tell you whether it is historical fact or a syndrome of your own coinage.
    - dundundundun 9mo ago
      The point is that Norway does not hand out the peace price - an independent committee does. And its Oslo, not Geneva.
      - AlotOfReading 9mo ago
        Not to mention that prizes can't be revoked.
        vee-kay 9mo ago
        Yeah, I realise the Nobel prizes cannot be revoked. It was sarcasm. But let's hear it from the horse's mouth.. The secretary of the Norwegian Nobel Committee, Geir Lundestad, wrote in his memoir that the decision “did not achieve what the committee had hoped for”, and that “in hindsight the argument … was only partially correct.”
      - vee-kay 9mo ago
        My apologies. Yes, you are right, Obama received the Nobel Peace Prize in Oslo, not Geneva. However, you are incorrect on your first point. Nobel Peace Prize is decided by the Norwegian Nobel Committee, a group of five members appointed by the Norwegian Parliament (Storting). This is different from the other Nobel Prizes, which are decided by Swedish institutions and awarded in Stockholm.
        9mo ago
netsharc 9mo ago
I've been talking to a friend that maybe his way to world domination is to give everyone with a brain an aneurysm. Also, it's pathetic how his envy of a particular younger, charismatic, well-loved Black man is so apparent. Obama has at least two things Trump is envious about, one is the Nobel Peace Prize, and the other is something Michelle Obama needs to compare notes with Stormy Daniels about.
- mac-attack 9mo ago
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- vee-kay 9mo ago
  Ironically Obama did more wars, while Trump has stopped/paused more wars. And like a hypocrite, Obama went and personally collected the Nobel Peace Prize AFTER he had certainly signed off on new wars and conflicts. But I think you already knew that. However, Trump is following on the same warmongering course of his predecessors, so it is not a surprise to anyone outside USA and NATO nations. The world is not fooled, by the Nobel Peace Prize mask. Bullies will be bullies, warmongering bullies even more so.
  - netsharc 9mo ago
    Yeah... Trump covets something that Obama probably could've lived without. https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/peace/2009/obama/lecture/ https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/peace/2009/obama/lecture/ : > Perhaps the most profound issue surrounding my receipt of this prize is the fact that I am the Commander-in-Chief of the military of a nation in the midst of two wars. One of these wars is winding down. The other is a conflict that America did not seek; one in which we are joined by 42 other countries – including Norway – in an effort to defend ourselves and all nations from further attacks. > Still, we are at war, and I’m responsible for the deployment of thousands of young Americans to battle in a distant land. Some will kill, and some will be killed. And in his book "Promised Land": > Nine days [after announcing troop deployment to Iraq at West Point], I flew to Oslo to receive the Nobel Peace Prize. The image of those young cadets weighed on me. Rather than ignore the tension between getting a peace prize and expanding a war, I decided to make it the centerpiece of my acceptance address. With the help of Ben Rhodes and Samantha Power, I wrote a first draft, drawing on the writings of thinkers like Reinhold Niebuhr and Gandhi to organize my argument: that war is both terrible and sometimes necessary; that reconciling these seemingly contradictory ideas requires the community of nations to evolve higher standards for both the justification and the conduct of war; and that avoidance of war requires a just peace, founded on a common commitment to political freedom, a respect for human rights, and concrete strategies to expand economic opportunity around the world. I finished writing the speech in the dead of night aboard Air Force One as Michelle slept in our cabin, my weary eyes drawn away from the page every so often by the sight of a spectral moon over the Atlantic. Yeah yeah, maybe it's my fanboydom, maybe it's him trying to make himself look good in hindsight, but at least this guy was honest about what happened/was happening. Unlike Mr. "I solved 8 world wars, where's my peace prize or I'll invade Greenland!" (did I quote him right?), who probably does believe he solved those "wars"...
voxleone 9mo ago
Idiocracy https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idiocracy https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idiocracy
- sillywalk 9mo ago
  Whenever this gets mentioned, it's always pointed out that in Idocracy, President Camacho finds the smartest person in the world to actually fix the problems.
throw0101d 9mo ago
From Nick Schifrin of PBS' Newshour: """ NEW: @potus letter to @jonasgahrstore links @NobelPrize to Greenland, reiterates threats, and is forwarded by the NSC staff to multiple European ambassadors in Washington. I obtained the text from multiple officials: Dear Ambassador: President Trump has asked that the following message, shared with Prime Minister Jonas Gahr Støre, be forwarded to your [named head of government/state] "Dear Jonas: Considering your Country decided not to give me the Nobel Peace Prize for having stopped 8 Wars PLUS, I no longer feel an obligation to think purely of Peace, although it will always be predominant, but can now think about what is good and proper for the United States of America. Denmark cannot protect that land from Russia or China, and why do they have a “right of ownership” anyway? There are no written documents, it’s only that a boat landed there hundreds of years ago, but we had boats landing there, also. I have done more for NATO than any other person since its founding, and now, NATO should do something for the United States. The World is not secure unless we have Complete and Total Control of Greenland. Thank you! President DJT" """ * https://twitter.com/nickschifrin/status/2013107018081489006#m https://twitter.com/nickschifrin/status/2013107018081489006#... * https://xcancel.com/nickschifrin/status/2013107018081489006#m https://xcancel.com/nickschifrin/status/2013107018081489006#...
- AnimalMuppet 9mo ago
  "I have done more for NATO than any person since founding"? And, how would Denmark protect that land from Russia or China? By being part of NATO. And, he thinks the Prime Minister of Norway decides who gets the Nobel Peace Prize? I mean, it's chosen by a committee appointed by the Parliament of Norway, so the Prime Minister probably has some influence, but I presume it is not a direct decision. This is the most arrogant, out-of-touch thing I have seen from Trump yet. Appalling.
  - aebtebeten 9mo ago
    at the moment, I think De Gaulle has done way more for NATO ;)
    - gsf_emergency_6 9mo ago
ChrisArchitect 9mo ago
More discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46676537 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46676537
throw0101d 9mo ago
For the record, in 1917 the US bought the then Danish West Indies and made them the United States Virgin Islands and gave up Greenland: > During 1916, the two sides agreed to a sale price of $25,000,000, and the United States accepted a Danish demand for a declaration stating that they would "not object to the Danish Government extending their political and economic interests to the whole of Greenland".[12][18] Although it had a claim on northern Greenland based on explorations by Charles Francis Hall[19] and Robert Peary, the United States decided that the purchase was more important, especially because of the nearby Panama Canal.[20] Historian Bo Lidegaard questions the utility of such a declaration, as the country had never disputed Danish sovereignty.[12] * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_the_Danish_West_Indies#1915–16_negotiations https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_the_Danish_West_Indi... See: > In proceeding this day to the signature of the Convention respecting the cession of the Danish West-Indian Islands to the United States of America, the undersigned Secretary of State of the United States of America, duly authorized by his Government, has the honor to declare that the Government of the United States of America will not object to the Danish Government extending their political and economic interests to the whole of Greenland. * https://history.state.gov/historicaldocuments/frus1917/d881 https://history.state.gov/historicaldocuments/frus1917/d881
cosmicgadget 9mo ago
Genuinely curious what the "eight wars plus" are.
- sillywalk 9mo ago
  "Trump has often boasted about ending eight wars, styling himself as "the president of peace" and therefore deserving of the Nobel honour but those claims have been exaggerated. The latest conflict he claims to have ended was two years of fighting between Israel and Hamas in Gaza. The other seven are Israel and Iran, Pakistan and India, Rwanda and the Democratic Republic of Congo, Thailand and Cambodia, Armenia and Azerbaijan, Egypt and Ethiopia and Serbia and Kosovo. But some of those conflicts lasted just days and one, Egypt-Ethiopia, had no fighting to end but rather involved long-standing issues of water sharing from the Nile River." https://www.euronews.com/2026/01/19/trump-tells-norways-pm-he-has-no-obligation-to-think-purely-of-peace-after-nobel-snub https://www.euronews.com/2026/01/19/trump-tells-norways-pm-h...
  - cosmicgadget 9mo ago
    Missed that, hilarious.

63 points by ndsipa_pomu 10mo ago

> Considering your Country decided not to give me the Nobel Peace Prize for having stopped 8 Wars PLUS, I no longer feel an obligation to think purely of Peace, although it will always be predominant, but can now think about what is good and proper' for the US No words

ndsipa_pomu 9mo ago
Two words: schoolyard bully It's just so ridiculous as "your Country" doesn't decide who gets the Nobel Peace Prize.
- AnimalMuppet 9mo ago
  Trump thinks every country runs by command from on top, just as he attempts to run America.
- vee-kay 9mo ago
  Which would be true if the Nobel Peace Prize wasn't given to Barack Obama (and never revoked despite the overwhelming evidence his actions led to more wars). Because he shamelessly went to Geneva to personally collect the Nobel Peace Prize AFTER he has signed off to start new wars from the beginning of his first tenure. In fact, Barack Obama is the only two-term US President who kept the nation officially involved throughout his tenures. It is evident.. Barack Obama got the Nobel Peace Prize not because he was the doyen of peace (no, he was the harbinger of wars), but because he was the first Black President in the history of the United States of America. And there are other examples where the genuineness and sincerity of the Nobel Committee can be questioned. Ironically, Donald Trump has directly or indirectly dismantled or paused more wars than Obama started (and continued). However, to think of him as a soothsayer of peace is foolhardiness. He is deep in the pockets of the wealthy elites, and does whatever's best for them and him. He doesn't deserve the Nobel Peace Prize either.
  - expedition32 9mo ago
    This is Obama Derangement Syndrome.
    - vee-kay 9mo ago
      A simple Google search of the wars started/involved by USA under the regime of Obama should tell you whether it is historical fact or a syndrome of your own coinage.
  - dundundundun 9mo ago
    The point is that Norway does not hand out the peace price - an independent committee does. And its Oslo, not Geneva.
    - AlotOfReading 9mo ago
      Not to mention that prizes can't be revoked.
      - vee-kay 9mo ago
        Yeah, I realise the Nobel prizes cannot be revoked. It was sarcasm. But let's hear it from the horse's mouth.. The secretary of the Norwegian Nobel Committee, Geir Lundestad, wrote in his memoir that the decision “did not achieve what the committee had hoped for”, and that “in hindsight the argument … was only partially correct.”
    - vee-kay 9mo ago
      My apologies. Yes, you are right, Obama received the Nobel Peace Prize in Oslo, not Geneva. However, you are incorrect on your first point. Nobel Peace Prize is decided by the Norwegian Nobel Committee, a group of five members appointed by the Norwegian Parliament (Storting). This is different from the other Nobel Prizes, which are decided by Swedish institutions and awarded in Stockholm.
      - 9mo ago

netsharc 9mo ago

I've been talking to a friend that maybe his way to world domination is to give everyone with a brain an aneurysm. Also, it's pathetic how his envy of a particular younger, charismatic, well-loved Black man is so apparent. Obama has at least two things Trump is envious about, one is the Nobel Peace Prize, and the other is something Michelle Obama needs to compare notes with Stormy Daniels about.

mac-attack 9mo ago
[flagged]
vee-kay 9mo ago
Ironically Obama did more wars, while Trump has stopped/paused more wars. And like a hypocrite, Obama went and personally collected the Nobel Peace Prize AFTER he had certainly signed off on new wars and conflicts. But I think you already knew that. However, Trump is following on the same warmongering course of his predecessors, so it is not a surprise to anyone outside USA and NATO nations. The world is not fooled, by the Nobel Peace Prize mask. Bullies will be bullies, warmongering bullies even more so.
- netsharc 9mo ago
  Yeah... Trump covets something that Obama probably could've lived without. https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/peace/2009/obama/lecture/ https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/peace/2009/obama/lecture/ : > Perhaps the most profound issue surrounding my receipt of this prize is the fact that I am the Commander-in-Chief of the military of a nation in the midst of two wars. One of these wars is winding down. The other is a conflict that America did not seek; one in which we are joined by 42 other countries – including Norway – in an effort to defend ourselves and all nations from further attacks. > Still, we are at war, and I’m responsible for the deployment of thousands of young Americans to battle in a distant land. Some will kill, and some will be killed. And in his book "Promised Land": > Nine days [after announcing troop deployment to Iraq at West Point], I flew to Oslo to receive the Nobel Peace Prize. The image of those young cadets weighed on me. Rather than ignore the tension between getting a peace prize and expanding a war, I decided to make it the centerpiece of my acceptance address. With the help of Ben Rhodes and Samantha Power, I wrote a first draft, drawing on the writings of thinkers like Reinhold Niebuhr and Gandhi to organize my argument: that war is both terrible and sometimes necessary; that reconciling these seemingly contradictory ideas requires the community of nations to evolve higher standards for both the justification and the conduct of war; and that avoidance of war requires a just peace, founded on a common commitment to political freedom, a respect for human rights, and concrete strategies to expand economic opportunity around the world. I finished writing the speech in the dead of night aboard Air Force One as Michelle slept in our cabin, my weary eyes drawn away from the page every so often by the sight of a spectral moon over the Atlantic. Yeah yeah, maybe it's my fanboydom, maybe it's him trying to make himself look good in hindsight, but at least this guy was honest about what happened/was happening. Unlike Mr. "I solved 8 world wars, where's my peace prize or I'll invade Greenland!" (did I quote him right?), who probably does believe he solved those "wars"...

voxleone 9mo ago

Idiocracy https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idiocracy https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idiocracy

sillywalk 9mo ago
Whenever this gets mentioned, it's always pointed out that in Idocracy, President Camacho finds the smartest person in the world to actually fix the problems.

throw0101d 9mo ago

From Nick Schifrin of PBS' Newshour: """ NEW: @potus letter to @jonasgahrstore links @NobelPrize to Greenland, reiterates threats, and is forwarded by the NSC staff to multiple European ambassadors in Washington. I obtained the text from multiple officials: Dear Ambassador: President Trump has asked that the following message, shared with Prime Minister Jonas Gahr Støre, be forwarded to your [named head of government/state] "Dear Jonas: Considering your Country decided not to give me the Nobel Peace Prize for having stopped 8 Wars PLUS, I no longer feel an obligation to think purely of Peace, although it will always be predominant, but can now think about what is good and proper for the United States of America. Denmark cannot protect that land from Russia or China, and why do they have a “right of ownership” anyway? There are no written documents, it’s only that a boat landed there hundreds of years ago, but we had boats landing there, also. I have done more for NATO than any other person since its founding, and now, NATO should do something for the United States. The World is not secure unless we have Complete and Total Control of Greenland. Thank you! President DJT" """ * https://twitter.com/nickschifrin/status/2013107018081489006#m https://twitter.com/nickschifrin/status/2013107018081489006#... * https://xcancel.com/nickschifrin/status/2013107018081489006#m https://xcancel.com/nickschifrin/status/2013107018081489006#...

AnimalMuppet 9mo ago
"I have done more for NATO than any person since founding"? And, how would Denmark protect that land from Russia or China? By being part of NATO. And, he thinks the Prime Minister of Norway decides who gets the Nobel Peace Prize? I mean, it's chosen by a committee appointed by the Parliament of Norway, so the Prime Minister probably has some influence, but I presume it is not a direct decision. This is the most arrogant, out-of-touch thing I have seen from Trump yet. Appalling.
- aebtebeten 9mo ago
  at the moment, I think De Gaulle has done way more for NATO ;)
  - gsf_emergency_6 9mo ago

ChrisArchitect 9mo ago

More discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46676537 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46676537

throw0101d 9mo ago

For the record, in 1917 the US bought the then Danish West Indies and made them the United States Virgin Islands and gave up Greenland: > During 1916, the two sides agreed to a sale price of $25,000,000, and the United States accepted a Danish demand for a declaration stating that they would "not object to the Danish Government extending their political and economic interests to the whole of Greenland".[12][18] Although it had a claim on northern Greenland based on explorations by Charles Francis Hall[19] and Robert Peary, the United States decided that the purchase was more important, especially because of the nearby Panama Canal.[20] Historian Bo Lidegaard questions the utility of such a declaration, as the country had never disputed Danish sovereignty.[12] * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_the_Danish_West_Indies#1915–16_negotiations https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_the_Danish_West_Indi... See: > In proceeding this day to the signature of the Convention respecting the cession of the Danish West-Indian Islands to the United States of America, the undersigned Secretary of State of the United States of America, duly authorized by his Government, has the honor to declare that the Government of the United States of America will not object to the Danish Government extending their political and economic interests to the whole of Greenland. * https://history.state.gov/historicaldocuments/frus1917/d881 https://history.state.gov/historicaldocuments/frus1917/d881

cosmicgadget 9mo ago

Genuinely curious what the "eight wars plus" are.

sillywalk 9mo ago
"Trump has often boasted about ending eight wars, styling himself as "the president of peace" and therefore deserving of the Nobel honour but those claims have been exaggerated. The latest conflict he claims to have ended was two years of fighting between Israel and Hamas in Gaza. The other seven are Israel and Iran, Pakistan and India, Rwanda and the Democratic Republic of Congo, Thailand and Cambodia, Armenia and Azerbaijan, Egypt and Ethiopia and Serbia and Kosovo. But some of those conflicts lasted just days and one, Egypt-Ethiopia, had no fighting to end but rather involved long-standing issues of water sharing from the Nile River." https://www.euronews.com/2026/01/19/trump-tells-norways-pm-he-has-no-obligation-to-think-purely-of-peace-after-nobel-snub https://www.euronews.com/2026/01/19/trump-tells-norways-pm-h...
- cosmicgadget 9mo ago
  Missed that, hilarious.