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If you had just downloaded Teams it would have worked fine. It isn’t Microsoft’s fault that Safari is a shit browser and the macOS people who keep it as their
by dangus 9mo ago
If you had just downloaded Teams it would have worked fine.
It isn’t Microsoft’s fault that Safari is a shit browser and the macOS people who keep it as their default won’t switch to something better.
- dundundundun 9mo agoCan I download Teams without it also requiring Microsoft updaters and other stuff that insists on lurking in the background? Having a standalone MS app is fine, but I will never allow their updaters and background processes.
- dangus 9mo agoThe Microsoft AutoUpdate tool is fully configurable so long as your organization doesn’t have any specific forced configurations. You can uncheck automatically update and install. You can decide whether or not to run the background service at all at the OS level. This is a really strange hill to die on because your OS and other programs already have similar functionality, you are just saying no to Microsoft specifically. Chrome runs a background process to stay up to date, for example.
- dundundundun 9mo agoYeah, so i'm not running Chrome either. I do not (from experience) trust Microsoft or Google to have software constantly running on my computer. I realize that i can disable the service of course, but then i end up with outdated software.
- dangus 9mo agoYou either update the software in the background, you update it manually, or you leave the software out of date. Microsoft offers you all three options and you don’t like any of them. I don’t quite understand what mystery fourth option you prefer Microsoft provides for you. Going back to my original comment, you could have tried Teams in a real web browser before deciding it sucks. Safari is trash.
- nottorp 9mo ago... and that's how browser monopolies are formed. Your "something better" is certainly Chrome. But that's irellevant because the likes of teams and google chat are made for management and at best sales, while slack is made for engineers.
- wooger 9mo agoWeird, there are an awful lot of engineers (last 3 SaaS companies I worked for) that are all Teams.
- quantum_magpie 9mo agoI ran Teams calls in Firefox on Linux for years, it worked as well as Zoom, I'd say. Other integrations, like the online office files had some issues. Didn't do chats there, though, only the meetings.
- dangus 9mo agoAll I know is the other two browser major engines work a lot better in practice than WebKit. I don’t really know or care as an end user if WebKit represents browser choice. The fact is they Apple isn’t putting enough effort in to making their browser engine “just work” with popular websites. If it was a requirement in iOS and a default in macOS nobody would choose it by choice. It would be dead as a doornail if it competed in a free market. In my experience a comparatively broke Mozilla Foundation makes a better browser experience than the most profitable consumer electronics company in the world. Apple needs to do better.
- asdff 9mo agoWhy can’t they make a working webapp for one of the largest browsers in the world? It isn’t like I tried to use Opera…
- dangus 9mo agoBecause nobody can. Safari breaks on all kinds of popular websites while Firefox’s bucket of nickels development budget does a better job. Apple can’t even make the back button behave smoothly. Popular doesn’t mean good. Safari sucks. From the perspective of someone who solely owns an iPhone they’d probably see a chromium monopoly as an upgrade.