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> For the last decade, an average of 1,300 trains derailed each year (in the US), accounting for 61% of all train accidents. https://usafacts.org/articles/are-

> For the last decade, an average of 1,300 trains derailed each year (in the US), accounting for 61% of all train accidents. https://usafacts.org/articles/are-train-derailments-becoming-more-common/ https://usafacts.org/articles/are-train-derailments-becoming... > In 2024, there were 1,507 significant railway accidents in the EU, with a total of 750 people killed and 548 seriously injured. https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/index.php?title=Railway_safety_statistics_in_the_EU https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/index.php... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derailment https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derailment

fsckboy 10mo ago
American trains are largely freight travelling long rural distances. You didn't mention it, so I presume because you didn't take it into account, so your statistics sound to me like they don't mean anything comparable.
- toomuchtodo 10mo ago
  Derailments are common is what the stats show. US derailments are largely property damage as they are freight centric, while in Europe, passenger deaths are higher due to more heavy passenger utilization. Derailment is hard to defend against.
  - Symbiote 10mo ago
    No, they are not common. The numbers you've been given are completely wrong. The GGP has quoted the derailments figure from the USA page, but the total accidents (including trespassers and level crossing accidents) for the EU. The EU page they cite says there were 63 derailments in 2024. A derailment in Europe tends to make the news even when there are no injuries. This single accident has killed more train passengers in Spain than were killed in the whole EU in 2024 (16).
    - toomuchtodo 10mo ago
      They're not? Commuter train crashes into crane in Murcia, marking Spain's fourth train crash in five days - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46725317 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46725317 - January 2026
jacquesm 10mo ago
The bulk of those are accidents involving railway crossings. There is a program to get rid of all level crossings in NL but it will take a lot of time and cost a ton of money. But there really is no way in which you can make a level crossing safe in combination with normal train speeds.
rsynnott 10mo ago
I'm half-convinced our good friends the magic robots are totally defeating peoples' ability to read. > In 2024, there were 1,507 significant railway accidents in the EU, with a total of 750 people killed and 548 seriously injured. See the graph titled "Rail accidents by type of accident". There were 63 derailments in 2024; most of the accidents were non-fatal accidents of this type: https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/index.php?title=Glossary:Accidents_to_persons_caused_by_rolling_stock_in_motion https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/index.php...

fsckboy 10mo ago

American trains are largely freight travelling long rural distances. You didn't mention it, so I presume because you didn't take it into account, so your statistics sound to me like they don't mean anything comparable.

toomuchtodo 10mo ago
Derailments are common is what the stats show. US derailments are largely property damage as they are freight centric, while in Europe, passenger deaths are higher due to more heavy passenger utilization. Derailment is hard to defend against.
- Symbiote 10mo ago
  No, they are not common. The numbers you've been given are completely wrong. The GGP has quoted the derailments figure from the USA page, but the total accidents (including trespassers and level crossing accidents) for the EU. The EU page they cite says there were 63 derailments in 2024. A derailment in Europe tends to make the news even when there are no injuries. This single accident has killed more train passengers in Spain than were killed in the whole EU in 2024 (16).
  - toomuchtodo 10mo ago
    They're not? Commuter train crashes into crane in Murcia, marking Spain's fourth train crash in five days - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46725317 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46725317 - January 2026

jacquesm 10mo ago

The bulk of those are accidents involving railway crossings. There is a program to get rid of all level crossings in NL but it will take a lot of time and cost a ton of money. But there really is no way in which you can make a level crossing safe in combination with normal train speeds.

rsynnott 10mo ago

I'm half-convinced our good friends the magic robots are totally defeating peoples' ability to read. > In 2024, there were 1,507 significant railway accidents in the EU, with a total of 750 people killed and 548 seriously injured. See the graph titled "Rail accidents by type of accident". There were 63 derailments in 2024; most of the accidents were non-fatal accidents of this type: https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/index.php?title=Glossary:Accidents_to_persons_caused_by_rolling_stock_in_motion https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/index.php...