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> What kept us on slack is the external partners who are on slack. This is a bigger deal than you might think. We are there as well. Most partners and clients

> What kept us on slack is the external partners who are on slack. This is a bigger deal than you might think. We are there as well. Most partners and clients use Windows. Most of them therefore had exchange and moved to the cloud. Most of them got 'Teams' for free in the package, chat and meetings. Now we see a zoom link and go 'euuuuugh', yuck. hipster yuck. Give me Teams Upsides seem to be, its back to xmpp where we can communicate with anyone Downside is, its total lock-in to microsoft.

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aiiotnoodle 9mo ago
All the cross tenant inconsistency really needs to be ironed out, I'm not sure if it's just my org but half the features of calls are randomly disabled or enabled based on who originated it. My favorite was when I entered VR during our standup on our otherwise quite locked down and very corporate environment.
pedalpete 9mo ago
I feel the same way when I get an email with a Teams link, but I think we're all just going to have to live with the idea that everyone is on different platforms. This just goes to show how badly Microsoft (or other owners before) messed up with skype. They had an opportunity to own the entire thing.
asdff 9mo ago
Screw teams. I had a meeting on teams for the first time ever so I decided to use safari, my designated un touched browser on my mac, to use teams in order to maximize compatibility. The thing kept shutting off my webcam every two seconds. I’d turn it on then it would shut off two seconds later. We switched to zoom for the remainder of the meeting. Google’s offering isn’t much better either. I tried the same thing, going with safari, tested my connection, all was well. Then came time to share screen. No go! Kept complaining I need to enable permissions in safari for hangout that were already enabled. Zoom just works on the other hand.
- dangus 9mo ago
  If you had just downloaded Teams it would have worked fine. It isn’t Microsoft’s fault that Safari is a shit browser and the macOS people who keep it as their default won’t switch to something better.
  - dundundundun 9mo ago
    Can I download Teams without it also requiring Microsoft updaters and other stuff that insists on lurking in the background? Having a standalone MS app is fine, but I will never allow their updaters and background processes.
    - dangus 9mo ago
      The Microsoft AutoUpdate tool is fully configurable so long as your organization doesn’t have any specific forced configurations. You can uncheck automatically update and install. You can decide whether or not to run the background service at all at the OS level. This is a really strange hill to die on because your OS and other programs already have similar functionality, you are just saying no to Microsoft specifically. Chrome runs a background process to stay up to date, for example.
      - dundundundun 9mo ago
        Yeah, so i'm not running Chrome either. I do not (from experience) trust Microsoft or Google to have software constantly running on my computer. I realize that i can disable the service of course, but then i end up with outdated software.
        dangus 9mo ago
        You either update the software in the background, you update it manually, or you leave the software out of date. Microsoft offers you all three options and you don’t like any of them. I don’t quite understand what mystery fourth option you prefer Microsoft provides for you. Going back to my original comment, you could have tried Teams in a real web browser before deciding it sucks. Safari is trash.

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aiiotnoodle 9mo ago

All the cross tenant inconsistency really needs to be ironed out, I'm not sure if it's just my org but half the features of calls are randomly disabled or enabled based on who originated it. My favorite was when I entered VR during our standup on our otherwise quite locked down and very corporate environment.

pedalpete 9mo ago

I feel the same way when I get an email with a Teams link, but I think we're all just going to have to live with the idea that everyone is on different platforms. This just goes to show how badly Microsoft (or other owners before) messed up with skype. They had an opportunity to own the entire thing.

asdff 9mo ago

Screw teams. I had a meeting on teams for the first time ever so I decided to use safari, my designated un touched browser on my mac, to use teams in order to maximize compatibility. The thing kept shutting off my webcam every two seconds. I’d turn it on then it would shut off two seconds later. We switched to zoom for the remainder of the meeting. Google’s offering isn’t much better either. I tried the same thing, going with safari, tested my connection, all was well. Then came time to share screen. No go! Kept complaining I need to enable permissions in safari for hangout that were already enabled. Zoom just works on the other hand.

dangus 9mo ago
If you had just downloaded Teams it would have worked fine. It isn’t Microsoft’s fault that Safari is a shit browser and the macOS people who keep it as their default won’t switch to something better.
- dundundundun 9mo ago
  Can I download Teams without it also requiring Microsoft updaters and other stuff that insists on lurking in the background? Having a standalone MS app is fine, but I will never allow their updaters and background processes.
  - dangus 9mo ago
    The Microsoft AutoUpdate tool is fully configurable so long as your organization doesn’t have any specific forced configurations. You can uncheck automatically update and install. You can decide whether or not to run the background service at all at the OS level. This is a really strange hill to die on because your OS and other programs already have similar functionality, you are just saying no to Microsoft specifically. Chrome runs a background process to stay up to date, for example.
    - dundundundun 9mo ago
      Yeah, so i'm not running Chrome either. I do not (from experience) trust Microsoft or Google to have software constantly running on my computer. I realize that i can disable the service of course, but then i end up with outdated software.
      - dangus 9mo ago
        You either update the software in the background, you update it manually, or you leave the software out of date. Microsoft offers you all three options and you don’t like any of them. I don’t quite understand what mystery fourth option you prefer Microsoft provides for you. Going back to my original comment, you could have tried Teams in a real web browser before deciding it sucks. Safari is trash.