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Microblogging is also the least interesting part of the ATProto ecosystem. I've switched all my git hosting over to https://tangled.org https://tangled.org and

by avsm 9mo ago

Microblogging is also the least interesting part of the ATProto ecosystem. I've switched all my git hosting over to https://tangled.org https://tangled.org and am loving it, not least of which is that my git server (a 'knot' in Tangled parlance) is under my control as a PDS and has no storage limits!

skybrian 9mo ago
Is it as easy for other people to read as a Github repo? Want to share?
- icy 9mo ago
  Tangled founder here; it's just as easy! For example, here's the entire Tangled codebase monorepo: https://tangled.org/tangled.org/core https://tangled.org/tangled.org/core — you can clone this directly as you would a git repo anywhere else.
  - skybrian 9mo ago
    Looks nice! New user sign up is a bit wonky. It asked for an email, login and password, then it's asking for a bsky sign-in too? This seems a little weird. (Minor nit: for some reason, Google didn't auto-suggest a strong password for the password field.) Then I got to the screen where it asks for full read-write access to my PDS and stopped there. It's kind of a lot to ask! I believe this is Bluesky's fault, but I don't think I can really use third-party bluesky apps until they implement finer-grained permissions.
    - danabramov 9mo ago
      Fine-grained permissions are already shipped btw, though the documentation could be better.
- catapart 9mo ago
  yeah, tangled seems like a pretty well-designed piece of tech. I've never used it, myself, but I did an audit and found that it's not only analogous to github as far as UX, but it also includes features like CI/CD, which other public/social repo servers have struggled with. only reason I backed away from it is that when the bsky team had a big "fuck the users" moment, the user purporting to be the tangled founder was happy to cheer them on. so between having to use AT proto, and assuming that the tangled dev doesn't really disagree with bsky's "fuck the users" sentiment, I moved on. but, obviously, whiny moral grandstanding is irrelevant to whether or not someone made a good product. if you've got a use for it, I'd certainly recommend giving it a try!

by avsm 9mo ago

skybrian 9mo ago

Is it as easy for other people to read as a Github repo? Want to share?

icy 9mo ago
Tangled founder here; it's just as easy! For example, here's the entire Tangled codebase monorepo: https://tangled.org/tangled.org/core https://tangled.org/tangled.org/core — you can clone this directly as you would a git repo anywhere else.
- skybrian 9mo ago
  Looks nice! New user sign up is a bit wonky. It asked for an email, login and password, then it's asking for a bsky sign-in too? This seems a little weird. (Minor nit: for some reason, Google didn't auto-suggest a strong password for the password field.) Then I got to the screen where it asks for full read-write access to my PDS and stopped there. It's kind of a lot to ask! I believe this is Bluesky's fault, but I don't think I can really use third-party bluesky apps until they implement finer-grained permissions.
  - danabramov 9mo ago
    Fine-grained permissions are already shipped btw, though the documentation could be better.
catapart 9mo ago
yeah, tangled seems like a pretty well-designed piece of tech. I've never used it, myself, but I did an audit and found that it's not only analogous to github as far as UX, but it also includes features like CI/CD, which other public/social repo servers have struggled with. only reason I backed away from it is that when the bsky team had a big "fuck the users" moment, the user purporting to be the tangled founder was happy to cheer them on. so between having to use AT proto, and assuming that the tangled dev doesn't really disagree with bsky's "fuck the users" sentiment, I moved on. but, obviously, whiny moral grandstanding is irrelevant to whether or not someone made a good product. if you've got a use for it, I'd certainly recommend giving it a try!