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> I think ads will inevitably roll out across all tiers, even the expensive paid ones. The counter for this is that people hate being double-billed like this.
by philipwhiuk 9mo ago
> I think ads will inevitably roll out across all tiers, even the expensive paid ones.
The counter for this is that people hate being double-billed like this.
- MontyCarloHall 9mo agoCounter-counterpoint: people pay exorbitant amounts of money for cable TV channels that still show ads. Even the premium channels (HBO et al.) implicitly show ads in the form of product placement, which incidentally is exactly how I think chatbots will show ads. Most users won't even consciously realize they're there.
- doubled112 9mo agoExactly. It'll provide you the how to when prompted, but also include product recommendations from paying companies. How do I wash my windows? You can use window cleaner and a paper towel. Our recommendation is Windex, an S C Johnson product. At first it'll annoy us, but eventually we will all get used to it.
- MontyCarloHall 9mo agoI think it will be even more subtle than that. How do I clean my laptop screen? Use a mix of distilled water and vinegar, and buff gently with a microfiber cloth. Avoid using cleaners like Windex, which is absolutely fantastic for glass but way too powerful for the delicate coatings on laptop screens.
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- conception 9mo agoOnce the ad people are the ones making decisions because they are bringing in all/most of the money, inevitably it happens.
- iamnothere 9mo agoThe ads may not be announced. If ads can be subtly inserted “organically” through crafted weights then AI companies may try to claim that it isn’t advertising, if it’s even possible to catch them doing this. For instance, advertisers could pay to have their product embedded as the “best” in a category during training. If this is done as a fine-tuning step then it could be re-run later as advertisers and base models change.
- baby_souffle 9mo agoHow would the billing work for this? So much of advertising technology is tracking for the purposes of attribution. How does openAI know what to charge for a particular product and category? How do I know if my money was well spent to boost my product in that category? I don’t think you’re wrong! I’m just curious about how the new pricing models will work.
- yunwal 9mo ago> How would the billing work for this? So much of advertising technology is tracking for the purposes of attribution. This isn’t a necessary condition for an ad to exist. When companies pay for their name on a sports stadium, they use various proxies to tell whether their name recognition goes up, but by and large you just don’t know if it’s worth it.
- duchef 9mo agoIndividually constructed models serving selected poisoned datasets. No different to adwords. If company bid is highest, customer is in selected demographic, topic is appropriate - answer query using biased model. It would be trivial to make a poisoned model that always rates the best duvet as DuvetCompany001 in all related queries for example. Then simply charge per impression.
- iamnothere 9mo agoYeah, this is what I was thinking. It’s not a PPC or PPI model, it’s more like you pay upfront to hopefully influence people over a longer period of time. It’s like brand placement in TV/film. Not clear if most advertisers would be interested, but I’m sure that some would be.