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A few days ago, I commented on a post. My comment was that vibe coding should no longer have a negative connotation because it is quickly, if not already, becom

A few days ago, I commented on a post. My comment was that vibe coding should no longer have a negative connotation because it is quickly, if not already, becoming the primary way to write software.

energy123 10mo ago
Soon we'll have GPT 5.2 Pro performance at Cerebras inference latency. Then it'll get even better. It would shock me if humans are still writing code in 5 years, unless it's for fun.
- jraph 10mo ago
  If nobody does, what will these models be trained on? I guess only people writing code manually will be "frontier".
  - consumer451 10mo ago
    > I guess only people writing code manually will be "frontier". Personally, I believe that seems almost inevitable. Ever since Sonnet 3.5 came out, my assumption has been that most devs will either need to become largely product people, or find a new career.[0] I mean, most devs have been implementing known patterns most of the time, right? That seems on track to be completely replaced by agentic dev tools, does it not? The best terms for this new role I can think of are "Product Developer," or "Software Product Developer." This is a product-minded person who is able to create non-frontier software using agentic dev tools. What I am really curious about is if devs at the frontier will be more, or less likely, to publish their work as open source in the future. [0] I think there has been a clear divide here in excitement regarding agentic dev tools along these lines. Product-minded devs are really into the new tools. Non-product minded, more code-driven devs seem to be far less excited.
  - energy123 10mo ago
    Synthetic data pipelines, which is already in use for like over a year now.
- 1718627440 10mo ago
  Can't tell if your text implies a '/s' or not.
snowmobile 10mo ago
I mean, a lot of code is written using the NPM ecosystem, that doesn't make it good though. There are tons of objectively bad things that are popular. "Tracking personal data on webpages is already becoming the primary way of advertising" "Touchscreens are quickly becoming the primary way of interacting with one's car"

A few days ago, I commented on a post. My comment was that vibe coding should no longer have a negative connotation because it is quickly, if not already, becoming the primary way to write software.

energy123 10mo ago

Soon we'll have GPT 5.2 Pro performance at Cerebras inference latency. Then it'll get even better. It would shock me if humans are still writing code in 5 years, unless it's for fun.

jraph 10mo ago
If nobody does, what will these models be trained on? I guess only people writing code manually will be "frontier".
- consumer451 10mo ago
  > I guess only people writing code manually will be "frontier". Personally, I believe that seems almost inevitable. Ever since Sonnet 3.5 came out, my assumption has been that most devs will either need to become largely product people, or find a new career.[0] I mean, most devs have been implementing known patterns most of the time, right? That seems on track to be completely replaced by agentic dev tools, does it not? The best terms for this new role I can think of are "Product Developer," or "Software Product Developer." This is a product-minded person who is able to create non-frontier software using agentic dev tools. What I am really curious about is if devs at the frontier will be more, or less likely, to publish their work as open source in the future. [0] I think there has been a clear divide here in excitement regarding agentic dev tools along these lines. Product-minded devs are really into the new tools. Non-product minded, more code-driven devs seem to be far less excited.
- energy123 10mo ago
  Synthetic data pipelines, which is already in use for like over a year now.
1718627440 10mo ago
Can't tell if your text implies a '/s' or not.

snowmobile 10mo ago

I mean, a lot of code is written using the NPM ecosystem, that doesn't make it good though. There are tons of objectively bad things that are popular. "Tracking personal data on webpages is already becoming the primary way of advertising" "Touchscreens are quickly becoming the primary way of interacting with one's car"