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Amazing, we sell them our gadgets and in return we get growth hormone beef and other agricultural products which don't even meet 1980s EU regulations, big win i

by lm28469 9mo ago

Amazing, we sell them our gadgets and in return we get growth hormone beef and other agricultural products which don't even meet 1980s EU regulations, big win indeed God forbid we subsidize food too, it's only like the #1 priority when it comes to sovereignty after all, we should definitely not produce locally and rely on foreign countries for our food autonomy

bboozzoo 9mo ago
How come folks seem to focus on beef, while IMO the real stakes are in obtaining access to important minerals. Lithium, nickel, copper, graphite, niobium, etc. are often listed. There's a nice breakdown on EC pages: https://policy.trade.ec.europa.eu/eu-trade-relationships-country-and-region/countries-and-regions/mercosur/eu-mercosur-agreement/factsheet-eu-mercosur-partnership-agreement-enhancing-trade-and-investment-critical-raw-materials_en https://policy.trade.ec.europa.eu/eu-trade-relationships-cou...
- lm28469 9mo ago
  Why do we focus on the shit part of the deal? Do I need to explain that really?
  - bboozzoo 9mo ago
    The shit part is what easily stris emotions and can be played by various actors and their agendas.
    - lm28469 9mo ago
      Yes of course, and the energy or minerals lobbies don't have any kind of agendas of course. They're obviously working for your well being and not serving their interests Also, one of the most corrupt country in the world will obviously play by the rules
  - surgical_fire 9mo ago
    Because that part of the deal is not shitty. You are just fearmongering based on lies. "Hormone raised cattle", and shit like that. South America likely has the best beef in the world (I can speak from experience having lived on both sides of the pond). Good that I might have access to real meat here for once.
    - lm28469 9mo ago
      > South America likely has the best beef in the world lol > Good that I might have access to real meat here for once. lmao It's one of the most corrupt part of the world and they 100% definitely use antibiotics and hormones banned in europe for safety reasons
      - surgical_fire 9mo ago
        > 100% definitely use antibiotics and hormones banned in europe for safety reasons No it's not. South American meat, particularly from Argentina, Uruguay, and Southern Brazil is phenomenal. It's just the perfect geography and climate for cattle. You are just crying for protectionism. If a less than 2% quota over the European production threatens you, it speaks more about your inability to do your job properly.

by lm28469 9mo ago

bboozzoo 9mo ago

How come folks seem to focus on beef, while IMO the real stakes are in obtaining access to important minerals. Lithium, nickel, copper, graphite, niobium, etc. are often listed. There's a nice breakdown on EC pages: https://policy.trade.ec.europa.eu/eu-trade-relationships-country-and-region/countries-and-regions/mercosur/eu-mercosur-agreement/factsheet-eu-mercosur-partnership-agreement-enhancing-trade-and-investment-critical-raw-materials_en https://policy.trade.ec.europa.eu/eu-trade-relationships-cou...

lm28469 9mo ago
Why do we focus on the shit part of the deal? Do I need to explain that really?
- bboozzoo 9mo ago
  The shit part is what easily stris emotions and can be played by various actors and their agendas.
  - lm28469 9mo ago
    Yes of course, and the energy or minerals lobbies don't have any kind of agendas of course. They're obviously working for your well being and not serving their interests Also, one of the most corrupt country in the world will obviously play by the rules
- surgical_fire 9mo ago
  Because that part of the deal is not shitty. You are just fearmongering based on lies. "Hormone raised cattle", and shit like that. South America likely has the best beef in the world (I can speak from experience having lived on both sides of the pond). Good that I might have access to real meat here for once.
  - lm28469 9mo ago
    > South America likely has the best beef in the world lol > Good that I might have access to real meat here for once. lmao It's one of the most corrupt part of the world and they 100% definitely use antibiotics and hormones banned in europe for safety reasons
    - surgical_fire 9mo ago
      > 100% definitely use antibiotics and hormones banned in europe for safety reasons No it's not. South American meat, particularly from Argentina, Uruguay, and Southern Brazil is phenomenal. It's just the perfect geography and climate for cattle. You are just crying for protectionism. If a less than 2% quota over the European production threatens you, it speaks more about your inability to do your job properly.