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Your intuition on AI is out of date by about 6 months. Those telltale signs no longer exist. It wasn't AI generated. But if it was, there is currently no way f

Your intuition on AI is out of date by about 6 months. Those telltale signs no longer exist. It wasn't AI generated. But if it was, there is currently no way for anyone to tell the difference.

comp_throw7 10mo ago
> But if it was there is currently no way for anyone to tell the difference. This is false. There are many human-legible signs, and there do exist fairly reliable AI detection services (like Pangram).
- threethirtytwo 10mo ago
  I've tested some of those services and they weren't very reliable.
- CamperBob2 10mo ago
  If such a thing did exist, it would exist only until people started training models to hide from it. Negative feedback is the original "all you need."
- int_19h 10mo ago
  There are no reliable AI detection services. At best they can reliably detect output from popular chatbots running with their default prompts. Beyond that reliability deteriorates rapidly so they either err on the side of many false positives, or on the side of many false negatives. There's already been several scandals where students were accused of AI use on the basis of these services and successfully fought back.
velox_neb 10mo ago
> It wasn't AI generated. You're lying: https://www.pangram.com/history/94678f26-4898-496f-9559-8c4c3114c7d8/ https://www.pangram.com/history/94678f26-4898-496f-9559-8c4c... Not that I needed pangram to tell me that, it's obvious slop.
- threethirtytwo 10mo ago
  I wouldn't know how to prove to you otherwise other then to tell you that I have seen these tools show incorrect results for both AI generated text and human written text.
- XenophileJKO 10mo ago
  I must be a bot because I love existential dread, that's a great phrase. I feel like they trigger a lot on literate prose.
  - lxgr 10mo ago
    Sad times when the only remaining way to convince LLM luddites of somebody’s humanity is bad writing.
- lxgr 10mo ago
  Good thing you had a stochastic model backing up (with “low confidence”, no less) your vague intuition of a comment you didn’t like being AI-written.
catlifeonmars 10mo ago
I’m confused by this. I still see this kind of phrasing in LLM generated content, even as recent as last week (using Gemini, if that matters). Are you saying that LLMs do not generate text like this, or that it’s now possible to get text that doesn’t contain the telltale “its not X, it’s Y”?

Your intuition on AI is out of date by about 6 months. Those telltale signs no longer exist. It wasn't AI generated. But if it was, there is currently no way for anyone to tell the difference.

comp_throw7 10mo ago

> But if it was there is currently no way for anyone to tell the difference. This is false. There are many human-legible signs, and there do exist fairly reliable AI detection services (like Pangram).

threethirtytwo 10mo ago
I've tested some of those services and they weren't very reliable.
CamperBob2 10mo ago
If such a thing did exist, it would exist only until people started training models to hide from it. Negative feedback is the original "all you need."
int_19h 10mo ago
There are no reliable AI detection services. At best they can reliably detect output from popular chatbots running with their default prompts. Beyond that reliability deteriorates rapidly so they either err on the side of many false positives, or on the side of many false negatives. There's already been several scandals where students were accused of AI use on the basis of these services and successfully fought back.

velox_neb 10mo ago

> It wasn't AI generated. You're lying: https://www.pangram.com/history/94678f26-4898-496f-9559-8c4c3114c7d8/ https://www.pangram.com/history/94678f26-4898-496f-9559-8c4c... Not that I needed pangram to tell me that, it's obvious slop.

threethirtytwo 10mo ago
I wouldn't know how to prove to you otherwise other then to tell you that I have seen these tools show incorrect results for both AI generated text and human written text.
XenophileJKO 10mo ago
I must be a bot because I love existential dread, that's a great phrase. I feel like they trigger a lot on literate prose.
- lxgr 10mo ago
  Sad times when the only remaining way to convince LLM luddites of somebody’s humanity is bad writing.
lxgr 10mo ago
Good thing you had a stochastic model backing up (with “low confidence”, no less) your vague intuition of a comment you didn’t like being AI-written.

catlifeonmars 10mo ago

I’m confused by this. I still see this kind of phrasing in LLM generated content, even as recent as last week (using Gemini, if that matters). Are you saying that LLMs do not generate text like this, or that it’s now possible to get text that doesn’t contain the telltale “its not X, it’s Y”?