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Maybe lift all the green deal stuff on our own farmers while at it? Let’s make it a fair competition. What’s next, let in shitty US food? I don’t see general

by mantas 9mo ago

Maybe lift all the green deal stuff on our own farmers while at it? Let’s make it a fair competition. What’s next, let in shitty US food? I don’t see general public welcoming it. Most people don’t seem to even know about it. Out of those who do know, many don't seem to be happy about it. Also, fucking over our farmers in unstable world does not seem like a smart thing to do. It’s time to do opposite and double-down on sovereignty on all fronts. And food sovereignty was one of very few sectors where EU got it right. Our food is not cheap, but we got plenty locally and quality is pretty good.

hvb2 9mo ago
> Also, fucking over our farmers in unstable world does not seem like a smart thing to do. Everyone can solve this for their own farmers. Just buy local, problem solved. Does that mean some things might be a bit more expensive? Yes, you're paying to keep them around just like you might want someone to pay for you to be employed. If we don't it's a race to the bottom for everyone.
- mantas 9mo ago
  It works when eating at home and making from scratch. How about eating out? Good luck pushing cheaper part of the sector to buy local. And not just pay lip service. And reality is many many people will just buy cheaper option and won’t thin about the impact.
oaiey 9mo ago
I do not see any empty fields left and right. Despite farmers complaining since 30 years about every single trade deal. Honestly I have not seen an unused field ever. And as long the fields are producing food this is just a change in income or structure of an industry.
- mantas 9mo ago
  Coming from ex-USSR… I’m used to unused fields. Nowadays situation is better. Where soil is best, all (most?) fields are used. But in other parts of the country unused fields are not uncommon. It doesn’t help that we are getting only a fraction of EU farming subsidies. While fancy machinery cost the same as for western counterparts. So Netherlands with higher wages are outpricing our farmers :D I think it’s matter of time when more and more of those deals will reach the tipping point. And after that it will be very hard to restore local agriculture.

by mantas 9mo ago

hvb2 9mo ago

> Also, fucking over our farmers in unstable world does not seem like a smart thing to do. Everyone can solve this for their own farmers. Just buy local, problem solved. Does that mean some things might be a bit more expensive? Yes, you're paying to keep them around just like you might want someone to pay for you to be employed. If we don't it's a race to the bottom for everyone.

mantas 9mo ago
It works when eating at home and making from scratch. How about eating out? Good luck pushing cheaper part of the sector to buy local. And not just pay lip service. And reality is many many people will just buy cheaper option and won’t thin about the impact.

oaiey 9mo ago

I do not see any empty fields left and right. Despite farmers complaining since 30 years about every single trade deal. Honestly I have not seen an unused field ever. And as long the fields are producing food this is just a change in income or structure of an industry.

mantas 9mo ago
Coming from ex-USSR… I’m used to unused fields. Nowadays situation is better. Where soil is best, all (most?) fields are used. But in other parts of the country unused fields are not uncommon. It doesn’t help that we are getting only a fraction of EU farming subsidies. While fancy machinery cost the same as for western counterparts. So Netherlands with higher wages are outpricing our farmers :D I think it’s matter of time when more and more of those deals will reach the tipping point. And after that it will be very hard to restore local agriculture.