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Same, though, as a Dane, I must express preference for Norway, Sweden and Finland (and Iceland), obviously :) I hope his antics do nothing except push us close

Same, though, as a Dane, I must express preference for Norway, Sweden and Finland (and Iceland), obviously :) I hope his antics do nothing except push us closer together.

lysace 9mo ago
At the same time we need to realize that the US actions are clearly meant to tear the EU apart. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Arctic_Endurance https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Arctic_Endurance The Italian Defense Minister Guido Crosetto found the operation superfluous and ridiculous, calling it a joke, and urged that it be carried out under NATO coordination. It's just that I also want that split (north vs south, sort of). The EU of today is dysfunctional, largely because of this immense cultural split. Now I want to delay this split though. At the moment we need EU unity.
- pseudony 9mo ago
  Oh absolutely, I adore most every country of the EU, maybe except Hungary and recently... Slovakia. But in principle, I think the EU, some voting forms, and a federal army is necessary if we desire any degree of self-determination.
- bigbadfeline 9mo ago
  > At the same time we need to realize that the US actions are clearly meant to tear the EU apart. Generally true with one small but very important correction - the US actions are clearly meant to bait the EU into breaking itself apart. > It's just that I also want that split (north vs south, sort of). You've been had. Trump is smarter than you, you've bitten his bait and you're hanging on his hook... and you were doing so well initially. > The EU of today is dysfunctional, largely because of this immense cultural split. There's no cultural split, there are only politicians on varying levels of corruption and the leading EU countries are in the center of it all. That's the problem that needs addressing.
  - lysace 9mo ago
    I wanted to do this before Trump first won in 2016.
    - bigbadfeline 9mo ago
      Trump didn't invent this game, it's quite old actually, he's just its latest salesman.
jdmoreira 9mo ago
You guys are all really purist with your shade of white.
- deleted 9mo ago
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- bigbadfeline 9mo ago
  > You guys are all really purist with your shade of white. That's the major goal of all the theatrics you see in political space - to have very similar peoples get at each other's throats. It was wildly "successful" in provoking the idiotic war between Russia and Ukraine. It's telling that I don't see any politician in the EU addressing that threat. You'd think EU politicians would know better given the long and bloody history of idiotic intra-European wars.
- Sabinus 9mo ago
  What do you mean?
- bigbadfeline 9mo ago
  > You guys are all really purist with your shade of white. A lot of the nationalist theatrics you see in political space lead to inflaming the small differences between similar peoples and getting them at each other's throats. That was clearly seen in the run-up to the tragic war between Russia and Ukraine. It's telling that I don't see any politician in the EU addressing that threat. You'd think EU politicians would know better given the long history of bloody intra-European wars. P.S. I reformulated my previously downvoted comment in order to make it more precise and less stingy. That will also help me understand the reason for the explanation-less downvoting - is it the truth in the content or the blemishes in form that caused it.

Same, though, as a Dane, I must express preference for Norway, Sweden and Finland (and Iceland), obviously :) I hope his antics do nothing except push us closer together.

lysace 9mo ago

At the same time we need to realize that the US actions are clearly meant to tear the EU apart. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Arctic_Endurance https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Arctic_Endurance The Italian Defense Minister Guido Crosetto found the operation superfluous and ridiculous, calling it a joke, and urged that it be carried out under NATO coordination. It's just that I also want that split (north vs south, sort of). The EU of today is dysfunctional, largely because of this immense cultural split. Now I want to delay this split though. At the moment we need EU unity.

pseudony 9mo ago
Oh absolutely, I adore most every country of the EU, maybe except Hungary and recently... Slovakia. But in principle, I think the EU, some voting forms, and a federal army is necessary if we desire any degree of self-determination.
bigbadfeline 9mo ago
> At the same time we need to realize that the US actions are clearly meant to tear the EU apart. Generally true with one small but very important correction - the US actions are clearly meant to bait the EU into breaking itself apart. > It's just that I also want that split (north vs south, sort of). You've been had. Trump is smarter than you, you've bitten his bait and you're hanging on his hook... and you were doing so well initially. > The EU of today is dysfunctional, largely because of this immense cultural split. There's no cultural split, there are only politicians on varying levels of corruption and the leading EU countries are in the center of it all. That's the problem that needs addressing.
- lysace 9mo ago
  I wanted to do this before Trump first won in 2016.
  - bigbadfeline 9mo ago
    Trump didn't invent this game, it's quite old actually, he's just its latest salesman.

jdmoreira 9mo ago

You guys are all really purist with your shade of white.

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bigbadfeline 9mo ago
> You guys are all really purist with your shade of white. That's the major goal of all the theatrics you see in political space - to have very similar peoples get at each other's throats. It was wildly "successful" in provoking the idiotic war between Russia and Ukraine. It's telling that I don't see any politician in the EU addressing that threat. You'd think EU politicians would know better given the long and bloody history of idiotic intra-European wars.
Sabinus 9mo ago
What do you mean?
bigbadfeline 9mo ago
> You guys are all really purist with your shade of white. A lot of the nationalist theatrics you see in political space lead to inflaming the small differences between similar peoples and getting them at each other's throats. That was clearly seen in the run-up to the tragic war between Russia and Ukraine. It's telling that I don't see any politician in the EU addressing that threat. You'd think EU politicians would know better given the long history of bloody intra-European wars. P.S. I reformulated my previously downvoted comment in order to make it more precise and less stingy. That will also help me understand the reason for the explanation-less downvoting - is it the truth in the content or the blemishes in form that caused it.