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If the Europeans plus Canada want it to exist, it exists. Otherwise, yeah, scrap heap of history.
by jleyank 9mo ago
If the Europeans plus Canada want it to exist, it exists. Otherwise, yeah, scrap heap of history.
- hermanzegerman 9mo agoEU has it's own more robust defence agreement.
- jleyank 9mo agoCan Canada join, or has it? Other non-EU countries?
- aebtebeten 9mo agoI'm sure Canada could join Operation Arctic Endurance; has it yet?
- illiac786 9mo agoHow is it more robust? There is no EU army, is there?
- hermanzegerman 9mo agoThe EU defence clause is more binding than the NATO Article 5. It also demands that the other states * obligation of aid and assistance by all the means in their power* whereas Article 5 let's other states decide how much aid they want to supply
- Hamuko 9mo agoThere's no NATO army either.
- illiac786 9mo agoJust check for “NATO troops”. That’s a term that exists and mean something.
- zwirbl 9mo agoIt means something, but doesn't imply the existence of a NATO rmy
- illiac786 9mo agook, but now we’re nit-picking about the meaning of “army”. There are “NATO troops” while there aren’t “EU Troops”. I would still like to understand why previous poster said the EU defense agreement was more robust, I am genuinely curious about what that agreement contains and how well it was respected in the past.
- magicalhippo 9mo ago> I am genuinely curious about what that agreement contains and how well it was respected in the past. Easy enough to find[1]. Here[2] is a nice article which digs a bit deeper into how it might play out. [1]: https://eur-lex.europa.eu/EN/legal-content/glossary/mutual-defence-clause.html https://eur-lex.europa.eu/EN/legal-content/glossary/mutual-d... (links to the treaty section if you want the text verbatim) [2]: https://www.politico.eu/article/5-things-to-know-about-the-eu-common-defense-clause/ https://www.politico.eu/article/5-things-to-know-about-the-e...
- palata 9mo ago> ok, but now we’re nit-picking about the meaning of “army”. You started nitpicking...