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> why not just take the yoke of American business protection laws off your shoulders... Because that means we in the US may as well quasi-nationalize major Eur
by alephnerd 10mo ago
> why not just take the yoke of American business protection laws off your shoulders...
Because that means we in the US may as well quasi-nationalize major European investments in the US like VW, Siemens, Saint-Gobains, OnSemi, NXP, Arm, and Nexperia and target European luxury cultural exports like Cognac (LVHM), Wine (LVMH), designer clothes (LVMH), designer purses (LVMH), and others like China did.
As a result, oligarchs like (eg.) Arnault (LVMH) would metaphorically slap Macron like they did on multiple occasions [0][1], and threaten to switch to supporting the RN. If they made Macron in 2017 [2], they can unmake him in 2026 [3].
It's the same story across Europe [4][5]. And any domestic capacity that could have remained within the EU is going to start leaving on January 27th [6].
Edit: can't reply
> how you get from IP law abrogation to 'quasi- nationalization'
IP Law protection is sacrosanct in any US trade deal, as we are a services exporter. If faced by actions like those mentioned above, we wouldn't be above retaliating.
This is why American tech companies successfully lobbied both the Biden and Trump administration to tamp down on any attempt on a Digital Services Tax by any country, such as with Canada [7] and the EU [8].
[0] - https://www.reuters.com/world/frances-richest-man-lvmhs-arnault-slams-proposed-billionaire-tax-2025-09-21/ https://www.reuters.com/world/frances-richest-man-lvmhs-arna...
[1] - https://www.lemonde.fr/en/politics/article/2023/08/07/how-bernard-arnault-the-world-s-richest-man-is-expanding-his-empire_6083553_5.html https://www.lemonde.fr/en/politics/article/2023/08/07/how-be...
[2] - https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-05-05/lvmh-s-arnault-joins-french-ceos-backing-macron-over-le-pen https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-05-05/lvmh-s-ar...
[3] - https://www.mediapart.fr/journal/culture-et-idees/dossier/la-croisade-culturelle-de-vincent-bollore https://www.mediapart.fr/journal/culture-et-idees/dossier/la...
[4] - https://www.ft.com/content/9b3d057c-16cc-4ab9-93bb-ed82c9ca596b https://www.ft.com/content/9b3d057c-16cc-4ab9-93bb-ed82c9ca5...
[5] - https://www.ft.com/content/cc06031c-f4a9-45db-ba3a-a3a23404b1f9 https://www.ft.com/content/cc06031c-f4a9-45db-ba3a-a3a23404b...
[6] - https://www.euractiv.com/news/exclusive-eu-india-trade-deal-will-exclude-agriculture-von-der-leyen-says/ https://www.euractiv.com/news/exclusive-eu-india-trade-deal-...
[7] - https://www.canada.ca/en/department-finance/news/2025/06/canada-rescinds-digital-services-tax-to-advance-broader-trade-negotiations-with-the-united-states.html https://www.canada.ca/en/department-finance/news/2025/06/can...
[8] - https://www.finance.senate.gov/chairmans-news/-wyden-and-crapo-call-on-biden-administration-to-fight-eu-digital-trade-policies-that-discriminate-against-us-workers-and-employers https://www.finance.senate.gov/chairmans-news/-wyden-and-cra...
- pm90 10mo agoSGTM? :D
- saubeidl 10mo agoI'm not sure I follow. Are you saying that would be a bad thing?
- alephnerd 10mo agoI'm saying it won't get to that, because any European leader who even threatens such an action would face the threat of a no-confidence motion by a now well funded opposition.
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- shlip 10mo ago> Because that means we may as well quasi-nationalize [...] I'm not quite sure how you get from IP law abrogation to 'quasi-nationalization', care to explain your reasoning here ?
- blibble 10mo ago> As a result, oligarchs like (eg.) Arnault (LVMH) would metaphorically slap Macron like they did on multiple occasions [0][1], and threaten to switch to supporting the RN. If they made Macron in 2017 [2], they can unmake him in 2026 [3]. I don't think americans quite understand how much the population has shifted from being pro-USA to anti-USA in the space of a year, as the orange cretin has been throwing his wrecking ball around we don't have the cancer that is fox news some billionaire who makes fancy handbags saying he's going to support a different political party will have zero impact on election results
- alephnerd 10mo ago> some billionaire who makes fancy handbags saying he's going to support a different political party will have zero impact on election results Arnault already has. He's the reason Élisabeth Borne is no longer the PM [0] and why the billionaire tax failed [1]. And his rival Bolloré is the reason why the RN is at the cusp of power [2] > we don't have the cancer that is fox news Instead you have Vivendi and Canal+ who are now owned by Bolloré [3], who has been using the Murdoch/Fox News strategy as well [4]. [0] - https://www.lemonde.fr/en/politics/article/2024/12/18/emmanuel-macron-a-certain-idea-of-power_6736228_5.html https://www.lemonde.fr/en/politics/article/2024/12/18/emmanu... [1] - https://www.reuters.com/world/frances-richest-man-lvmhs-arnault-slams-proposed-billionaire-tax-2025-09-21/ https://www.reuters.com/world/frances-richest-man-lvmhs-arna... [2] - https://www.france24.com/en/france/20240627-how-the-french-murdoch-carried-le-pen-s-far-right-to-the-brink-of-power https://www.france24.com/en/france/20240627-how-the-french-m... [3] - https://www.mediapart.fr/journal/culture-et-idees/dossier/la-croisade-culturelle-de-vincent-bollore https://www.mediapart.fr/journal/culture-et-idees/dossier/la... [4] - https://rsf.org/fr/derri%C3%A8re-la-campagne-de-d%C3%A9sinformation-contre-rsf-progressif-media-une-bo%C3%AEte-d-influence-sulfureuse https://rsf.org/fr/derri%C3%A8re-la-campagne-de-d%C3%A9sinfo...