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We will soon discover if the EU actually as a spine or is just a bendover for the US...(My money is on the latter, and I'm from EU)
by shlip 9mo ago
We will soon discover if the EU actually as a spine or is just a bendover for the US...(My money is on the latter, and I'm from EU)
- komali2 9mo agoFascist states get at least one free pass. For Germany it was Poland, for the USA I believe they're deciding between Venezuela and Greenland. Personally I think the better bet is Greenland because they can probably get Venezuela for free after since nobody cares about Venezuela. A "two in one deal" if you will, perhaps one of America's greatest inventions. Edit: I meant to write Austria but am so used to writing "German invasion of Poland" that that's what came out of the thumbs
- SirWalross 9mo agoPoland was hardly a free pass. The Sudetenland was the free pass.
- LexiMax 9mo agoI'd hardly call any of Germany's prewar annexations free. It was clear very early on that Germany was being led by a violent bully, so past a certain point appeasement wasn't a blank check, but was instead intended to buy time to spin up war industries.
- wongarsu 9mo agoThe Greenland situation is more like Germany annexing the Sudetenland (the border regions of Czechoslovakia) in 1938. And after that Hitler got his homeland Austria as another freebie. That's stretching the analogy a bit, but Venezuela might be Trump's Austria. His Poland would be something like Canada
- padjo 9mo agoAlso from the EU and I think the EU cannot back down here. The only way the US gets Greenland is if they seize it or the population votes for it. A tariff is just not going to make a difference and underlines to the EU how craven the US has become.
- voidfunc 9mo agoEurope cant afford to have enemies on both sides. It will align with the US reluctantly because even a bat shit crazy US is better than Russia. China plays it too close to the chest to be a friend.
- throwaway_20357 9mo agoIndeed. As the US abandons it, the EU seemingly has no other choice than to find ways to align with Russia now.
- dh2022 9mo agoI think Europe can handle Russia by itself quite well. The Baltics are vulnerable, but Poland will definitely kick Russia's butt in a military engagement. Poles will defend EU's eastern flank. I expect Europe to distance itself from US. Let's see.
- omnimus 9mo agoI think you are underestimating how entrenched and strong US lobby is. European governments are filled to the roof with US boosters whos whole wealth is tied to what US wants. Even people like Macron have been bribed by US companies for decades. And now with huge hard right turn in europe all those “nationalists” will just bend over even more to get US lobby money and consulting contracts. They are already tied to national oligarchs so they welcome Trump and will likely sell off Ukraine to get “peace” and slowely dismantle EU. The aim is that every country will follow hungary and slovakia - corrupted, weak and undemocratic.
- padjo 9mo agoI think you have a very poor understanding of European politics. Not even Meloni and Farage will get behind this sort of behaviour from the US.
- omnimus 9mo agoFarage whos been campaigning for Trump in US multiple times? Meloni who is Elon Musks bestie going on dates together? Their disapproval of Trump is simply calculation. They would have been hurt too much otherwise. Once most of europe will go their way (europe has huge hard right turn incoming) the rhetoric will change. It will be normalized, they will sell europe in name of anti-regulation, lack of innovation and “incompetence” of other eu states.