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GNOME devs really are special. I wonder why.

by spookie 8mo ago

shevy-java 8mo ago
It is not just GNOME devs. Try to interact with systemd-poettering or I-pwn-glibc-Drepper. For some reason the Red Hat centric guys are troublemakers. More recently KDE devs also became troublemakers - first David "all must use systemd", then nate "I-can-ask-for-donations-at-will-by-placing-a-trojan-daemon-onto-people-whose-sole-job-is-to-ask-for-donations" (more about this guy here: https://jriddell.org/2025/09/14/adios-chicos-25-years-of-kde/ https://jriddell.org/2025/09/14/adios-chicos-25-years-of-kde...) and of course the "there are no xorg-server users left on KDE, so all must use wayland". Developers became a LOT more like dictators in the last 10 years specifically. This was a change indeed. I am not sure what happened, but things changed. GTK is now also a pure GNOMEY dev-kit. Good luck trying to convince the GTK devs of anything that used to be possible in gtk2 or gtk3 - it is now GNOME only.
- RicoElectrico 8mo ago
  I'm pretty scared what userland piece of software will be re-written while ditching backwards compatibility and making the current body of support knowledge worthless. After all, we've replaced the display server (sort of), audio, init and service management, network commands (netplan) if not much more. My bet would be on a rewrite of CUPS in Rust. Oh, your printer that worked for 20 years is now a useless brick? What a shame, at least now the printing subsystem is secure and blazing fast.
  - shakna 8mo ago
    Well, as Apple has basically abandoned CUPS, and not everyone uses the OpenPrinting fork, things in that space are getting "fun".
  - steve1977 8mo ago
    Not even Rust zealots want to touch printing ;)
  - networkadmin 8mo ago
    > My bet would be on a rewrite of CUPS in Rust. Please, don't give them any ideas.
  - eagle2com 8mo ago
    Please, printers have never worked, it's a side effect when they do.
- kombine 8mo ago
  https://pointieststick.com/2025/03/10/personal-and-professional-updates-announcing-techpaladin-software/ https://pointieststick.com/2025/03/10/personal-and-professio... for the sake of completeness here's Nate Graham version of events.

GNOME devs really are special. I wonder why.

by spookie 8mo ago

GNOME devs really are special. I wonder why.

It is not just GNOME devs. Try to interact with systemd-poettering or I-pwn-glibc-Drepper. For some reason the Red Hat centric guys are troublemakers. More recently KDE devs also became troublemakers - first David "all must use systemd", then nate "I-can-ask-for-donations-at-will-by-placing-a-trojan-daemon-onto-people-whose-sole-job-is-to-ask-for-donations" (more about this guy here: https://jriddell.org/2025/09/14/adios-chicos-25-years-of-kde/ https://jriddell.org/2025/09/14/adios-chicos-25-years-of-kde...) and of course the "there are no xorg-server users left on KDE, so all must use wayland". Developers became a LOT more like dictators in the last 10 years specifically. This was a change indeed. I am not sure what happened, but things changed. GTK is now also a pure GNOMEY dev-kit. Good luck trying to convince the GTK devs of anything that used to be possible in gtk2 or gtk3 - it is now GNOME only.

RicoElectrico 8mo ago
I'm pretty scared what userland piece of software will be re-written while ditching backwards compatibility and making the current body of support knowledge worthless. After all, we've replaced the display server (sort of), audio, init and service management, network commands (netplan) if not much more. My bet would be on a rewrite of CUPS in Rust. Oh, your printer that worked for 20 years is now a useless brick? What a shame, at least now the printing subsystem is secure and blazing fast.
- shakna 8mo ago
  Well, as Apple has basically abandoned CUPS, and not everyone uses the OpenPrinting fork, things in that space are getting "fun".
- steve1977 8mo ago
  Not even Rust zealots want to touch printing ;)
- networkadmin 8mo ago
  > My bet would be on a rewrite of CUPS in Rust. Please, don't give them any ideas.
- eagle2com 8mo ago
  Please, printers have never worked, it's a side effect when they do.
kombine 8mo ago
https://pointieststick.com/2025/03/10/personal-and-professional-updates-announcing-techpaladin-software/ https://pointieststick.com/2025/03/10/personal-and-professio... for the sake of completeness here's Nate Graham version of events.