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Which is why quiet quitting is the logical thing. Managers and business owners shouldn't take it personally that I do as little as possible and minimize the am
by bill_joy_fanboy 9mo ago
Which is why quiet quitting is the logical thing.
Managers and business owners shouldn't take it personally that I do as little as possible and minimize the amount of labor I provide for the money I receive.
Hey, it's just business.
- safety1st 9mo ago[flagged]
- Giefo6ah 9mo agoLet's say the average firm has 10 workers. 90% of people are nihilists and empty lifers? Do I want to lead a business filled with losers?
- bill_joy_fanboy 9mo ago> What a nihilistic perspective and empty life. Equally nihilistic are owners, managers, and leaders who think they will replace developers with LLMs. Why care about, support, defend, or help such people? Why would I do that?
- safety1st 9mo agoI think you missed my point. If you "quiet quit" you're still working for someone you hate. They still own you. Instead, you could ACTUAL QUIT and start a business. Then you work for yourself, who you hopefully don't hate as much, and you have the power to define how things are done. So if you think developers shouldn't be replaced by LLMs or whatever, then you can... not do that. I have zero doubt in my mind that that will be a niche somewhere in the global economy for many years to come. Also you might make a lot of money. Make enough and you're basically free from all these assholes. It doesn't actually take a ton of money when you own 100%. You pretty quickly get to a point where you can start telling off any wanker you want to, but you don't even feel the need, you are your own boss, so you just walk away from them and deal with whoever you want to deal with instead. Trust me, speaking from experience, this is 1,000,000% better than "quiet quitting" which is pretty much remaining a corporate serf, just the most useless and pussy one in somebody else's room. Of course it's harder, most people who try it fail, real economics, real laws and real people will call you out pretty fast if you don't do things that people other than you think are valuable!
- falloutx 9mo agoEvery founder and owner is basically a money chaser and bill_joy_fanboy is the true businessman. You will not get it.
- tbrownaw 9mo agoAnd you do this honestly, by negotiating reduced hours for the same pay or by negotiating piecework rather than time-based pay. Right?
- nullorempty 9mo agoWhat does the term mean? I think the answer to your question is obvious.
- Izkata 9mo agoUnless something has changed, "quiet quitting" means "do only what the job requires". Arrive at 9, leave at 5, no out-of-hours work functions, etc. It's more a return to normalcy, but with a bad name because it comes from a generation who has always been told they have to go above and beyond to succeed alongside a corporate culture that tries to lure people into work by making it more of a social experience.
- bill_joy_fanboy 9mo agoLike any shrewd businessman, I negotiate to receive the highest price possible for the minimum cost on my end. This is how business is done.
- throwjjj 9mo agoWhich is why I fire the quiet quitters on the spot
- minomushi 9mo agoI am so appreciative of the employment protection laws we have in Europe so I don't have to deal with managers like you.
- throwjjj 9mo agoYeah but you are paid less than half for a reason
- beepboopboop 9mo agoBut they get to live in Europe
- curiouspupil 9mo agoAnd you wonder why you're understaffed.
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